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Having removed my turbo for the third time in two months this weekend I noticed the manifold has an inch-long crack along the top in line with the middle arm. What are my options? As I see it there are three:
1. Welding in place - the area is fairly accessible with the heatshield out of the way.
2. Removal for reweld. Is removing the studs going to leave me with broken bits of stud sticking out (or worse, not sticking out at all) and no easy way of removal?
3. Removal for replacement. Do I need to go to the factory/stealer for a new one?
1. Welding in place - the area is fairly accessible with the heatshield out of the way.
2. Removal for reweld. Is removing the studs going to leave me with broken bits of stud sticking out (or worse, not sticking out at all) and no easy way of removal?
3. Removal for replacement. Do I need to go to the factory/stealer for a new one?
NobleGuy said:
Biggriff said:
we removed and rewelded and stengthened. seems ok now. Ideally go for new as there is a new stronger design I believe.
How did you find the removal?I'm told the M400 manifolds are more robust so went that route when mine cracked. Paid £150 (rear) and £170 (front) so not too expensive if you offset that against the re-welding charges. If you do re-weld, they need to be strengthened/gusseted or it will just re-occur in the future.
Lakelord said:
I'm told the M400 manifolds are more robust so went that route when mine cracked. Paid £150 (rear) and £170 (front) so not too expensive if you offset that against the re-welding charges. If you do re-weld, they need to be strengthened/gusseted or it will just re-occur in the future.
That's not too bad at all price-wise. Was expecting a bit more TBH.Can I ask where you got hold of them?
I know I should really do the rear at the same time but everything looks fine and dandy there - no oil loss from the turbo and no manifold cracks. If it ain't broke and all that...
S26VE P said:
If you do replace could you keep hold of the spare and i could weld/gusset it for anyone to swap and do the same once another is removed. Gives me something to do when bored. 
Has anyone got any pics of what the gusset set up looks like. I will be swapping exhaust soon so this might be the time to strengthen mine.
Bondy
NobleGuy said:
Lakelord said:
I'm told the M400 manifolds are more robust so went that route when mine cracked. Paid £150 (rear) and £170 (front) so not too expensive if you offset that against the re-welding charges. If you do re-weld, they need to be strengthened/gusseted or it will just re-occur in the future.
That's not too bad at all price-wise. Was expecting a bit more TBH.Can I ask where you got hold of them?
S26VE P said:
If you do replace could you keep hold of the spare and i could weld/gusset it for anyone to swap and do the same once another is removed. Gives me something to do when bored.
Still have the old ones as was planning on doing just that. All we need is a NOBILITY meet in the near future and I'll pass them over to youEdited by Lakelord on Tuesday 13th January 14:30
Lakelord said:
S26VE P said:
If you do replace could you keep hold of the spare and i could weld/gusset it for anyone to swap and do the same once another is removed. Gives me something to do when bored.
Still have the old ones as was planning on doing just that. All we need is a NOBILITY meet in the near future and I'll pass them over to youLakelord said:
I'm told the M400 manifolds are more robust so went that route when mine cracked. Paid £150 (rear) and £170 (front) so not too expensive if you offset that against the re-welding charges. If you do re-weld, they need to be strengthened/gusseted or it will just re-occur in the future.
Just got quoted £293 for the front manifold.Plus Carriage.
Plus VAT.
So probably around £350....
NobleGuy said:
Lakelord said:
I'm told the M400 manifolds are more robust so went that route when mine cracked. Paid £150 (rear) and £170 (front) so not too expensive if you offset that against the re-welding charges. If you do re-weld, they need to be strengthened/gusseted or it will just re-occur in the future.
Just got quoted £293 for the front manifold.Plus Carriage.
Plus VAT.
So probably around £350....
s. I take it you've phoned around as there was some 'variation' when I was getting quotes?Two things.
Firstly Plans quote me 243.75 + VAT + Carriage, so slightly less but not much.
Secondly they mentioned that Noble are currently re-designing stainless steel manifolds to get round the cracking issue.
At those prices I'm tempted to go for a re-weld.
P.S. How the flying f*** do you get to the bolt on the manifold nearest the alternator? Do you access it from above, below, left or right? Seems that every way I try something solid is in the way stopping me. Grrrr!
Firstly Plans quote me 243.75 + VAT + Carriage, so slightly less but not much.
Secondly they mentioned that Noble are currently re-designing stainless steel manifolds to get round the cracking issue.
At those prices I'm tempted to go for a re-weld.
P.S. How the flying f*** do you get to the bolt on the manifold nearest the alternator? Do you access it from above, below, left or right? Seems that every way I try something solid is in the way stopping me. Grrrr!
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