Turbo actuators
Turbo actuators
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noblesparky

Original Poster:

2,152 posts

212 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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After the dyno day I am looking at first changing the actuators on the turbo charger. Once I have changed them, do i need to get remapped straight away or is the car ok to run?

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Gaz and I were talking about this today , guess if you replace them with std actuators it should be ok but if you are going to upgrade to a higher pressure then a remapp is a must .

art411y

832 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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whats the pressure range on the standard actuators.was 1.5 bar on the evo and similar on the cossie

Duke Thrust

1,680 posts

268 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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noblesparky said:
After the dyno day I am looking at first changing the actuators on the turbo charger. Once I have changed them, do i need to get remapped straight away or is the car ok to run?
Hi Andy,

Any chance you could take photos as you go? It seems like a few of need to do this job and some piccys would be a big help smile

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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As posted elsewhere, I am doing mine tomorrow so I'll post up the details.

Dave

noblesparky

Original Poster:

2,152 posts

212 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Had an e-mail from Mike about changing the actuators, he said that there was no problem in changing the actuators and then using the car but he advises against giving it full banana's before the car has a remap. The rear one looks east to change if the clam is removed, think the front one is going to be more fun

smash

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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Thats good news , looking forward to seeing Dave,s pictures when he is done but having spent a load of time under the car i know changing the front one is going to be a bh !!! when we get them all changed we could have a group re-mapp at mikes !!

DissidentX

88 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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I'm also looking forward to seeing Dave's pictures.. and finding out if the straight swap brings back normal boost pressure.

Am I right that Mike's aftermarket actuators are 0.7 bar and the standard Noble ones are 0.4 bar? And if so, is that the reason a remap is advisable if the new ones are fitted?

At this stage I'm not looking to do any tuning - I was hoping to easily get the car back to its "standard" out-of-the-factory state [2003 spec smile].

Another question - cos I'm not that mechanical - in standard form, is it the boost solenoid that sets max boost at 0.7 bar, with mechanical boost (actuators) at 0.4 bar run the car in "safe mode" in case the ECU shuts it down? That might not make sense.. confused

Duke Thrust

1,680 posts

268 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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noblesparky said:
Had an e-mail from Mike about changing the actuators, he said that there was no problem in changing the actuators and then using the car but he advises against giving it full banana's before the car has a remap. The rear one looks east to change if the clam is removed, think the front one is going to be more fun

smash
Yep, the front one looks a total pain - had a look today whilst fitting my catch tank.


D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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Guys,

The actuators are now on after less than four hours and no real swearing! They are fairly straightforward but don't forget I did them on a lift in a fully equipped garage with air etc. I personally wouldn't want to do them (the front one especially) on my back in my garage at home.
The rear one is an easy job once the clam is off, the front one is much more tricky but OK once the heatshield is removed. There's no need to remove the bellypan either.
I'll post up some piccies and more detail later.

Cheers

Dave
smile

Edited by D_G on Saturday 25th April 21:26


Edited by D_G on Saturday 25th April 21:27

Richie350

344 posts

227 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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Great news Dave clap

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Guys,

Just managed to reset my photo account so here goes..

Original rear actuator



Old one removed



Old and new



New one installed



Old front actuator



New front installed



Dave
smile





Duke Thrust

1,680 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th April 2009
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Nice one Dave!

How are the old ones fixed? Looks like you've had to drill them out?


Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th April 2009
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how did you set the preload on them ?

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Wednesday 29th April 2009
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Duke Thrust said:
Nice one Dave!

How are the old ones fixed? Looks like you've had to drill them out?
Gadgeroonie said:
how did you set the preload on them ?
They are spot welded on in three places, no problem with a 5mm drill bit. There's no way to do it in place on the front one but getting it off isn't that bad anyway. Once they are off one of the holes is extended to 7mm with a new hole on the other side for the new units.
I measured the old ones from the mounting base to the centre of the pivot on each one and also the distance from the centre of the wastegate to pivot once detached. I found the preload on the old ones was 3mm for both (detached) which also matched the old lengths so installed them at that.

Dave

Owd Twat

260 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Hi Andy, my turbos are off the car at the moment. Where did you source your actuators - they look identical to the originals? Cheers


Owd Twat

260 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Sorry!! Please re-address above to Dave.

D_G

1,939 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Area52 Autosport.

gaz 7404

326 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Hi Dave,
What is the total rod length please? Gaz.


Keep it clean please kids!

Edited by gaz 7404 on Thursday 30th April 23:57

Duke Thrust

1,680 posts

268 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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gaz 7404 said:
What is the total rod length please?
*swoon*