Emissions
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noble1978

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185 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Car failed it's MOT on emissions. Any ideas, the workshop had no ideas whatsoever and said i'd have to go to a noble specialist!! I'm thinking lambda sensor but would like any ideas.

Cheers Ryan

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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get the garage to check the lambda sensors, if not get the lead and the software available on nob parts and do it yourself it's a 5 min job.

HTH

Steve

Edited by daddysumo on Thursday 2nd July 11:44

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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what would i be looking for though?

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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"owns a garage and told him to take it out and clean it with Brake fluid.



Apparently they get coked up and a quick clean up can sort the problem."


Would that work?????


Adrian W

15,492 posts

257 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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noble1978 said:
"owns a garage and told him to take it out and clean it with Brake fluid.



Apparently they get coked up and a quick clean up can sort the problem."


Would that work?????
no

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Any ideas then adrian?

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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noble1978 said:
Any ideas then adrian?
As above. Get yourself a copy of Noble dealer software (from nobleparts.co.uk) and a lead, and you can check the O2 sensors yourself.

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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I have the software, what does a good one look like? or a bad one? I have no idea of the values that they should be? How much does a sensor cost roughly? is it a standard ford part?

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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they both should have a pronounced square wave form I think from memory, a bad one will not oscillate from plus to minus and is easy to see if the other one is healthy.
They are ford items and are listed on nob parts.

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Thats the info I required, Thanks Daddysumo

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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mine scrapped its MoT few weeks ago at a noble specialist... they showed me a slight crack in the exhaust manifold and said it was probably this that caused it to be so marginal (im gona get it welded up.

However Im having a new exhaust fabricated for the car and so removed the downpipes and my cats look totally knackered so I suspect it was this in my case, just as well they are being replaced smile

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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andygtt said:
mine scrapped its MoT few weeks ago at a noble specialist.
Cool. How does that work then? Would be nice not to have any more MOTs to worry about wink

steveobes

632 posts

208 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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mine would fail mot every time cos im running through pipes with no cats, i just put a very lean map in my ecu when they do the emission test. sorted.

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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How many lambda sensors are there in the engine??

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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noble1978 said:
How many lambda sensors are there in the engine??


There's one on each exhaust bank,so two in total.

Adrian W

15,492 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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noble1978 said:
How many lambda sensors are there in the engine??
Their are none in the engine, however there is one sensor in each exhaust down pipe

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Adrian W said:
noble1978 said:
How many lambda sensors are there in the engine??
Their are none in the engine, however there is one sensor in each exhaust down pipe
Or in the case of 2.5 engines, they will be in the manifolds wink

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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peterguk M500 said:
Adrian W said:
noble1978 said:
How many lambda sensors are there in the engine??
Their are none in the engine, however there is one sensor in each exhaust down pipe
Or in the case of 2.5 engines, they will be in the manifolds wink
As everyone is correcting everyone elses i'll join in. smile

Or in the case of 2.5 engines, it will be in the manifold smile

Bondy

Naso Grande

237 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Ryan,

Do you have the cable? If not then you I can let you have mine. Beware it's not a standard RS232 cable though. PM me if you need it.

If I were you I'd think about buying a Porsche! Yes, I do have spies everywhere.

Cheers,
Graeme

noble1978

Original Poster:

185 posts

211 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Ha ha Graeme, very good spies you have. Car through it's mot now. Had a loose clamp on the exhaust underneath. Thanks for the offer of the lead by the way, I do have one but mine freezes up at times. So where do you work then? I'm imagining Dyce? Oceaneering perhaps?