M400 side air intake scoops

[MadMacMcMad]

Gents, I am after a set of M400 air intake scoops. Preferably in carbon.
Anyone know if these are available any where?
Cheers
Andy

[peterguk M500]

GRP from the factory - about £120 each.

Not seen them in carbon.

Remember they don't do much to aid cooling without other mods.

[TuxMan]

i want a set of these too ......maybe get a disc for 2 sets !!

[MrCredit]

I'd also be interested in a set, I love the look of the Noble with the scoops.
I realise that they don't do a lot unless you perform other aerodynamic mods.

[Metalman]

Yes i'd love some too, would look in carbon though.

[art411y]

the factory ones i bought from kerridges.they are a good and easy fit.cost 83 pounds each

[sue57]

MadMacMcMad said:

Gents, I am after a set of M400 air intake scoops. Preferably in carbon.
Anyone know if these are available any where?
Cheers
Andy

Hi, Not 100% sure but if you contcact [e-mail] with ur email or tel number my friend has M400 where he increased bhp and had these fitted. Does track days and sprints and has a wealth of contacts and info. The expert people we use in uk is John Noble motorsport (no relation to Noble name) theya are in Chesterfield, Derbyshire, Sue

[MadMacMcMad]

Thanks all.
I'll try Noble motorsport as they have done good work for me in the past.

[alex s]

MadMacMcMad said:

Thanks all.
I'll try Noble motorsport as they have done good work for me in the past.

As Peter said, it is a Noble only part, so your best bet is to order direct, all JNM will do is call the factory and order them.

[funkybmx1]

how do you fit them please

[ThatPhilBrettGuy]

funkybmx1 said:

how do you fit them please

Just glue them on and marvel at the 0% more air going into the engine bay.

[peterguk M500]

ThatPhilBrettGuy said:

funkybmx1 said:

how do you fit them please

Just glue them on and marvel at the 0% more air going into the engine bay.

[TuxMan]

yep..........but what is most important is ......they look good

[ThatPhilBrettGuy]

TuxMan said:

yep..........but what is most important is ......they look good

To be honest I'm not a fan of them as I like the cleaner look to the side of the car.

[TuxMan]

Fair point , i have to say i love the look of the car !! Have just started planning winter upgrades !! one thing i want to do is the later headlight pods as i think these look great !! suppose it makes sense to do the pods as well .

[Twerlie]

ThatPhilBrettGuy said:

TuxMan said:

yep..........but what is most important is ......they look good

To be honest I'm not a fan of them as I like the cleaner look to the side of the car.

I agree, plus they take a hammering of stone chips! IMHO

[funkybmx1]

how do you get them to work what aero mods need to be done. thank you

[peterguk M500]

funkybmx1 said:

how do you get them to work what aero mods need to be done. thank you

2 main areas need work - bodywork inside the pods needs removing/modifying (see Hoover's thread on nobleforums.com for pics) and side repeater panels need modifying to allow air to exit out of front wheelarches close to sides of car.

And some improvements to the rear clam to allow air to exit will help too.

Edited by peterguk M500 on Tuesday 14th July 10:03

[NobleGuy]

peterguk M500 said:

And some improvements to the rear clam to allow air to exit will help too.

Are they the bits cut out of Adrians rear end (as it were!?)?
Does the air essentially drag on the inside of the rear clam?

[andygtt]

I know nothing about the actual data collected form the noble being in a wind tunnel and im no aero expert, but i have spent a lot of time considering this for my own design of car as mine is also mid engined and im using scoops in the same place.... mine goes much further tho as these scoops feed air to my radiators and intercoolers (1 each side of the car) hence it was more than just important to get this right on mine.

Bascially the first critical thing is to ensure air can escape, you can have the largest scoop in the world right in the air flow but at a set speed it could become a solid barrier and no air will go in at all... the rear of the car is not a good exit as the air is usually turbulent, you really need air to be sucked out.
The vents I saw on Adrian car are in the wheel arch which is mostly closed off from the engine bay so im not actually sure if these provide extra airflow through the engine bay or if they are done to reduce pressure in the wheelarch?

Also you have to carefully consider the state of the air that will enter the scoop, turbulent air is no good as you could end up with very little actually going in, for mine I had to redesign the front wheel arch completely to prevent turbulent air rolling down the side of the car.

Must admit Id love to know more about how the noble performed in the tunnel, its all very well talking about theroy etc, but few actually have and thus spend the cash to actually find out whats really happeneing.