I`ve found Lee Noble
I`ve found Lee Noble
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elf63

Original Poster:

119 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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Chatting to Lee`s dad`s mate last week and he reckons Lee has a newly
designed car almost ready to go, doesn`t know what to name it apparently !
I bought my first M12 a couple of years ago from father-in-law, build no. 11,but had full M400 transplant in 2004. I`ve recently sold that to a mate to make way for 'Biggriffs' 3R (lovely specimen) but might be interested in Lee`s new baby if its any good- surely it`ll be something special!Anyway,Lee was asked yesterday if i could contact him and he`s passed his tel number on to me, so i`ll give him a call. He only lives a few miles away, i wonder if he`ll let me see it ?!

Steve




Edited by elf63 on Sunday 9th August 20:27

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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good stuff

if Lee is smart, he will launch it at the same time as the M600 wink

i'm dying to see it - i reckon it will keep to the noble roots and be priced to suit us not fatcats

please please can we see some pics of it

what engine is in it ?

Edited by Gadgeroonie on Sunday 9th August 11:02

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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Lee Noble is a bit dodgy imho.

Thought he did a runner any way with Dysons money.

plus he drives a Porsche which does not say much for his cars lol

And when I went to visit the factory , most cars in the car park were older 911's no Nobles to be seem.

Started Ultima did a runner.

started Noble did a runner.

always wanted a Noble, but when I asked a engineer at Noble about them he said
wtf do you want one of these for lol

They then shiped out the build to S\A and they came back so out of spec it was funny.

Any Factory repairs come back covered in saning dust.

Then sold the rights of the car to the USA who seems to make a much better one and better looking called the Rossion. (not seen/heard much about that though)


Sort of put me off owning one after all that.


jamie g

516 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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would love to see him build another car. it would hopefully be more of a noble m12\m400 mk 2 smile

elf63

Original Poster:

119 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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Spoke to Lee this afternoon and arranged to see him next weekend hopefully.New car is nearer M12 than overpriced M600 ( his words ), with V8 and `bulletproof` gearbox ! Imagine next generation M12, perhaps modern Ultima, that`s more advanced in mechanics with a cost between an Ultima and original Noble. He`s convinced the performance will be staggering ,so i suppose we`ll have to just wait and see.Should be available within the next few months.Roll on next week!

Steve

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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you have mail :-)

Twerlie

1,682 posts

296 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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mrdemon said:
Lee Noble is a bit dodgy imho.

Thought he did a runner any way with Dysons money.

plus he drives a Porsche which does not say much for his cars lol

And when I went to visit the factory , most cars in the car park were older 911's no Nobles to be seem.

Started Ultima did a runner.

started Noble did a runner.

always wanted a Noble, but when I asked a engineer at Noble about them he said
wtf do you want one of these for lol

They then shiped out the build to S\A and they came back so out of spec it was funny.

Any Factory repairs come back covered in saning dust.

Then sold the rights of the car to the USA who seems to make a much better one and better looking called the Rossion. (not seen/heard much about that though)


Sort of put me off owning one after all that.
I didn't buy a Noble cause i like Lee, i bought it cause i like the car!

shimon340

73 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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interesting!

I wonder whose V8 the Lee Noble car will be using!?

Another volvo V8 powered supercar I hope


s

Pinnacle

168 posts

270 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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elf63 said:
Spoke to Lee this afternoon and arranged to see him next weekend hopefully.New car is nearer M12 than overpriced M600 ( his words ), with V8 and `bulletproof` gearbox ! Imagine next generation M12, perhaps modern Ultima, that`s more advanced in mechanics with a cost between an Ultima and original Noble. He`s convinced the performance will be staggering ,so i suppose we`ll have to just wait and see.Should be available within the next few months.Roll on next week!

Steve
Steve, see if you can get a email address, and PM to me. I have some info I would like to get his way which I think he would be well interested in ..... yes

elf63

Original Poster:

119 posts

227 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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[quote=shimon340]interesting!

I wonder whose V8 the Lee Noble car will be using!?

Another volvo V8 powered supercar I hope



Chevy

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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elf63 said:
shimon340 said:
interesting!
I wonder whose V8 the Lee Noble car will be using!?
Another volvo V8 powered supercar I hope
Chevy
Isn't that what's in the Ultima? Sounds interesting.

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

228 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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NobleGuy said:
elf63 said:
shimon340 said:
interesting!
I wonder whose V8 the Lee Noble car will be using!?
Another volvo V8 powered supercar I hope
Chevy
Isn't that what's in the Ultima? Sounds interesting.
I hope it's the LS7...... Hmmmm, the fun I could have with one of those babies. smile


Mike.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

274 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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mrdemon said:
Lee Noble is a bit dodgy imho.

...Started Ultima did a runner.

started Noble did a runner.
Two comments:
  • Lee Noble has always openly admitted that, like many talented design engineers, he kinda looses interest in a project once it's up and running. The daily grind of production engineering just doesn't appeal to some people...
  • He's smart enough to recognise that there's no money in manufacturing niche performance cars (ask Nicolai Smolenski wink ). There is, however, a good profit to be had in coming up with a successful and competent design, then selling it on to a foolish optimist who fancies themselves as the next Henry Ford...
The Ultima wasn't the first project he's sold on: you can count the P4 (sold to Neil Foreman), the Noble 23 (Sold to Sutol and later to become the Auriga then the Mamba) and the Midtec amongst his earlier 'dodgy' dealings.

He's not alone, either: Jeremy Phillips (Sylva) uses the same approach and has developed then sold off even more projects than Lee Noble over the years, for similar reasons.

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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I would be fairly sure that Lee Noble is fully aware of any non comp clauses in his service agreement with Noble, I don't think we will hear anything untill they expire, that will also apply to IPR, as Dyson does have the resources to enforce it.

noble_al

170 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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mrDemon said
"a engineer at Noble ...said wtf do you want one of these for lol"


It's quite simple really, Nobles are the best drivers cars imaginable and make your (and my) Porsche feel bloated and lethargic with steering more akin to something large and yellow that belongs on a building site! laugh

As for repairs and maintenance, I always used the TVR Centre in Barnet and have nothing but the highest praise for their levels of professionalism and friendliness and knowledge of their products, something I have found very hard to find within the Porsche and BMW franchises of this country over the years.

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Adrian W said:
I would be fairly sure that Lee Noble is fully aware of any non comp clauses in his service agreement with Noble, I don't think we will hear anything untill they expire, that will also apply to IPR, as Dyson does have the resources to enforce it.
What exactly does his "service agreement" state?
Particularly with regard to NC and IPR?


Mike.

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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noble_al said:
=mrDemon said=||
"a engineer at Noble ...said wtf do you want one of these for lol"


It's quite simple really, Nobles are the best drivers cars imaginable and make your (and my) Porsche feel bloated and lethargic with steering more akin to something large and yellow that belongs on a building site! laugh
I see you've gone from a 3R to a Cayman S, so you have my sympathy. Phil had one for a while, he wasn't happy - referred to it as the Gay-Man, which pretty much summed up what he thought of it! wink

noble_al

170 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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TeeHee - I can understand the sentiment but it is actually a pretty good car. I've spent a lot of money turning it into an even better one (which means that the lucky person who buys it will get all the benefits) but I miss my Noble desperately and all the excitement that goes with it.

If and when I sell the Cayman and buy another Noble though, I'm sure I'll miss the bullet proof engineering, the creature comforts and things such as the practicality of 2 boots and great fuel economy that make the Porsche such a fine every day car.

Fickle, moi? Of course biggrin

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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noble_al said:
If and when I sell the Cayman and buy another Noble though, I'm sure I'll miss the bullet proof engineering, the creature comforts and things such as the practicality of 2 boots and great fuel economy that make the Porsche such a fine every day car.
I must admit that it was a bit of a novelty being able to buy more than a packet of screws at B&Q and still drive home in comfort. wink Now if only Lee could combine the strengths of the two cars into one whilst keeping it in the same price bracket, he'd be onto a guaranteed winner! smile

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Mike Tuckwood said:
Adrian W said:
I would be fairly sure that Lee Noble is fully aware of any non comp clauses in his service agreement with Noble, I don't think we will hear anything untill they expire, that will also apply to IPR, as Dyson does have the resources to enforce it.
What exactly does his "service agreement" state?
Particularly with regard to NC and IPR?


Mike.
Give him a call and ask him,