Failed MoT on emissions
Failed MoT on emissions
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Dave2P

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823 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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As title - failed this morning. On the advice of the garage dropped a bottle of Forte Gas Treatment in the tank and went for a hoon, re-tested with everything red-hot... still failed.

One or other of the CO and Lambda values failed over several attempts at the Fast Idle tests.

E.g. Fast idle test
CO Max 0.3%, measured 0.00% PASS
Lambda 0.95-1.03, measured 1.10 FAIL

Second fast idle test
CO Max 0.3%, measured 1.60% FAIL
Lambda 0.95-1.03, measured 1.02 PASS

Garage are not a Noble specialists but did what they could... their emissions testing machine didn't list any Nobles so they put it in as a Ford Maverick (3L V6).

Mole Valley are my nearest dealers so guess I'll run it up there for a diagnostic check, unless anyone knows a suitably equipped independent in either Sussex or Kent?

Realise it's not a lot to go on but is there any easy way to tell if the lambda sensors and / or the cats are faulty? And if they are, what sort of cost am I looking at?

TVMIA, Dave

mr-manners

185 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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Hi Dave mine failed on emissions yesterday too rolleyes


FAST IDLE LIMIT
lamda 1.04 0.97-1.03

second test gave the same readings

I had a feeling mine might fail as i have a cracked manifold and the rest of the exhaust is blowing from every gasket

New exhaust and welding of manifold will be happening next week smile

YellowShed

587 posts

312 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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Dave2P,

You almost certainly have a leaking exhaust system and possibly manifold (excess air causing a lean lambda reading) - if the lambda (HEGO) sensor sees the air, it richens up the fuelling and causes a high CO reading. If it doesn't see the air in the exhaust, then the CO is right but the lambda value comes out lean (i.e. greater than 1.03). You have both, depending on how hot the exhaust is, so the air leak is changing.

Oh, and your HEGO sensors could be a bit tired - get a dealer to hook up the diagnostic software and watch for the sensors switching rich and lean - should sweep from 0.1-0.8. If they only get to 0.5-0.6 then they need replacing.

Hope that helps,

YellowShed

funkybmx1

958 posts

223 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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hope you get it sorted dave. if you see this yellow shed. the car flys now. thanks alotbow

YellowShed

587 posts

312 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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Glad to hear it. It was a pleasure smile

YellowShed

Dave2P

Original Poster:

823 posts

209 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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YellowShed said:
Hope that helps,
Yes it does... thanks. Makes sense although not exactly what I wanted to hear...

Will drop you a mail, cheers, Dave