What should I wear? Harness or seatbelt?
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Whilst driving on the roads what should I wear? The seatbelt or 4 point harness?
How tight should the harness be? I guess if I am wearing a harness I cannot lean forward and therefore it might restrict me when I need to see when pulling out from a tight exit?
If I should only wear the seatbelt I might take out the harness and store them. It is annoying that they clunk against the back of the seat when I start and stop.
How tight should the harness be? I guess if I am wearing a harness I cannot lean forward and therefore it might restrict me when I need to see when pulling out from a tight exit?
If I should only wear the seatbelt I might take out the harness and store them. It is annoying that they clunk against the back of the seat when I start and stop.
The harness is dangerous if its not fitted correctly every time you use it, if its not fully tightened then it will cause injury in an accident... for this reason I use the lap belt for everyday road use and have strapped the harness tightly behind the seat so they dont clatter about.
But for some putting on the harness and tightening it up etc is all part of the Noble experience... I had an Ultima before and that only had Harnesses so I didnt have a choice in that and it was certainly fun strapping in the ladies
But for some putting on the harness and tightening it up etc is all part of the Noble experience... I had an Ultima before and that only had Harnesses so I didnt have a choice in that and it was certainly fun strapping in the ladies
Neither installation as standard is very good. The 3 point belt - as noted - has the buckle/inner anchorage too far forward. (Basically the buckle stalk length is too long plus the buckle can`t pivot to line up with the lap belt run). With the 4 point belt you need to be very careful to tighten the lap strap first and then the shoulder straps afterwards. With both types of belt the lap section should be in contact with the `crests` of your pelvis. If it isn`t then there is a risk of an abdominal injury as the lap belt digs into the soft tissue above your pelvis.(You `submarine` under the lap belt).
It`s also worth checking that the the various belt `anchor plates` are aligned to take the loading from the various belt sections.
It`s also worth checking that the the various belt `anchor plates` are aligned to take the loading from the various belt sections.
The devil said:
What was Noble Guy wearing last weekend for his flying lessons?
Said he was wearing the 4 point harness and the authorities at the scene thought that he'd not have been so lucky if just wearing the normal seatbelt. That's what has got me thinking about wearing the 4 point in future.I certainly know that quite a few people wear the harness as a matter of course. Got to think I'll be joining them....
I recall one of the owners here commenting that you soon get used to just releasing the 4 point at junctions to lean forward if necessary, then re-fastening it.
BobE said:
Neither installation as standard is very good. The 3 point belt - as noted - has the buckle/inner anchorage too far forward. (Basically the buckle stalk length is too long plus the buckle can`t pivot to line up with the lap belt run). With the 4 point belt you need to be very careful to tighten the lap strap first and then the shoulder straps afterwards. With both types of belt the lap section should be in contact with the `crests` of your pelvis. If it isn`t then there is a risk of an abdominal injury as the lap belt digs into the soft tissue above your pelvis.(You `submarine` under the lap belt).
It`s also worth checking that the the various belt `anchor plates` are aligned to take the loading from the various belt sections.
Started wearing the harness, (It`s also worth checking that the the various belt `anchor plates` are aligned to take the loading from the various belt sections.
on intruction of the Wife) if I can get into the harness without adjusting, is it too slack, feels ok once in place. Once fastened I find the buckle sits just below my sternum, is this correct (I'm 6ft5"). Just a thought, 
this thread may just save one of our lifes, is that just melodramatic, or is it just way past my bed time!!!!....the joys of a 3 month daughter 
Stay safe!!!!wessexrfc said:
Started wearing the harness, (on intruction of the Wife) if I can get into the harness without adjusting, is it too slack, feels ok once in place. Once fastened I find the buckle sits just below my sternum, is this correct (I'm 6ft5"). Just a thought, this thread may just save one of our lifes, is that just melodramatic, or is it just way past my bed time!!!!....the joys of a 3 month daughter Stay safe!!!!
on intruction of the Wife) if I can get into the harness without adjusting, is it too slack, feels ok once in place. Once fastened I find the buckle sits just below my sternum, is this correct (I'm 6ft5"). Just a thought, this thread may just save one of our lifes, is that just melodramatic, or is it just way past my bed time!!!!....the joys of a 3 month daughter Stay safe!!!!
http://willans.com/fitting/view-category
Check out the instructions under "Supersport 4x4 4x3" which I think is what is in my Noble and probably many others. It has the instructions on pg. 4 on how to adjust the harness properly.
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