M600 engine gone bang?
M600 engine gone bang?
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joust

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14,622 posts

288 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I've heard that the blue M600 has blown it's engine at Bruntingthorpe whilst preparing for a TV appearance.

If it is true its not great given Peter said in the original release article that the engine wasn't really that stressed at 650.

One can only imagine why it went bang.

GTO400

1,877 posts

280 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Justin,
You almost sound pleased !

NickyTwoHats

2,093 posts

270 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Oops....hope it wasn't TG.

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I'm sure they have another

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I'm sure it wont take long to fix the engine , but the styling might take a little longer ! hurl it's obviously a personal thing , but I dont think the colour they chose helps it either ! ..I'm so disappointed after such a long wait ! frown ..... lets see what the trunob looks like next !

Edited by nigelw on Tuesday 20th October 08:51


Edited by nigelw on Tuesday 20th October 09:39

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

228 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Can't say as I'm surprised.
You've only got to make a small driving error in a car like that and it can blow an engine, they're not magical devices.
Over rev or selecting the wrong gear and that'll pop a high HP engine easy.

Mike

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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did it melt on the straight ?

(I suspect it is running a tweaked map to impress the press wink )

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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One engine on a test car. So what.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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a "press car" should not be the "test car"

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Gadgeroonie said:
a "press car" should not be the "test car"
It's a small company of 15 people. They're hardly going to build loads, they have to double up. Better than getting the customers to be the testers like the 'good old' Noble days though wink

Ash 996 GT2

3,836 posts

270 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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That means order two.

Good way to double sales wink

shimon340

73 posts

226 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Potentially something very minor causing a breakdown and not necessarily complete engine failure. Unless someone can accurately confirm otherwise?

Engine completed durability test successfully (ran at 750bhp for that) and Noble wouldnt release and engine if it was over-stressed or at risk.

S

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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joust said:
One can only imagine why it went bang.
Personally I'd rather wait until I know all the facts. wink

nigelw said:
it's obviously a personal thing , but I dont think the colour they chose helps it either !
I'm not sure about the colour either, but perhaps it's in vogue now - certainly looks better in the sunshine. smile



shimon340 said:
Engine completed durability test successfully (ran at 750bhp for that) and Noble wouldnt release and engine if it was over-stressed or at risk.
Yes I expect that Noble would rather an engine went bang during testing rather than when it was in the hands of a customer - Lee Noble found out to his cost why that was a bad idea.


TIGERSIX

969 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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joust said:
One can only imagine why it went bang.
Just proves Volvo/Yamaha engines are designed by humans and can be killed by Noble engineers,TBF who gives a stuff its all part of the development process of any vehicle ,if you dont blow them up you havent developed them enough.smash

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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GTO400 said:
Justin,
You almost sound pleased !
yeah that's kinda how it reads.

Still, they have a fair few to go before catching up with the number of lunched engines from Lee's handywork!

More interesting for me was the fact that it laps slower than a Scud despite all the power. Just goes to show power isn't everything. I found myself liking it more after the autocar article though and I hope they can make a go of it. Shame its not sub 100k.

Edited by DanH on Tuesday 20th October 19:50

joust

Original Poster:

14,622 posts

288 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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The only interesting thing is that the engine was cited as being bulletproof by the MD and yet it goes bang big time.

It would appear that this isn't a finished car and yet they are selling them at 200k not 90. At 200 you'd expect the hype and statements by the MD to be respectable and trueful.

If it had been tested so much how come the first 'production' (although we now know this doesn't gave the carbon body) car goes bang 4 weeks after it's released at it's home test track?

Something isn't therefore true about all the hype about this 'bulletproof' engine.

TIGERSIX

969 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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joust said:
Something isn't therefore true about all the hype about this 'bulletproof' engine.
Whilst this might make for an interesting thread it would appear none of us are in possesion of the facts ,ie had they raised the boost leaned of the fueling ect,did it just have an inherant fault like any other vehicle which has happened many times over .This is nothing new to any manufacturer large or small.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Bloody hell Justin, when people were like this about Lee's effort you were the first to flame them! Poor show!!! Referee!!!!

Lest we forget, every M400 shipped with an engine which had a limited life expectancy with the fuel pump+wiring issues. Never mind that they never made the quoted power either.

Edited by DanH on Tuesday 20th October 22:03

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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nigelw said:
it's obviously a personal thing , but I dont think the colour they chose helps it either !
I'm not sure about the colour either, but perhaps it's in vogue now - certainly looks better in the sunshine. smile



Yes ..I saw that article where it was described as a "ferrari Gallardo" ! ...it also , like my car , would look better being driven by a Penny Lancaster ! wink ha ha !

Edited by nigelw on Wednesday 21st October 10:30

HeavySoul

10,580 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Although I agree that no one is in possession of all the facts yet, that is pretty embarrassing for your 'first' car to go bang already despite many people saying how much testing and development the car had already been through.

As I said in various other threads on here, there is no experience of pushing this engine to those levels of power and this is not something you should have in a £200k car. If it was £60/70k then it would be slightly different but in that league you need to be sure the technology your using is reliable for what you are using it for and the engine needs some heritage and proven abilities.

I presume it was for TG as there is not many other TV shows about cars around these days now and they are filming for the new series at the moment smile