Re Circ BOV
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mgbond

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6,749 posts

261 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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I currently have a forge BOV and at some point I need to have a re circ BOV (BOV to air is not liked in OZ). What are my options, can I mod what I have or is it a new system?

Cheers

Bondy

Stella Artois

556 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Adrian has a recirculating.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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waste of time in my opinion

best to just blank the dump valve off if the car is going to be tested and then refit afterwards

The devil

2,152 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Are you taking the old girl all the way to Aus then?

mgbond

Original Poster:

6,749 posts

261 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Ok, why is it a waste of time? Will it still not take the pressure away from the bearing and help keep turbos spinning?

Yes I could blank it off for arrival but the police out there stop you a lot and check cars over, if they hear the air filter noise they will suspect I have a BOV and pull me and fine me for having a vent to air BOV.

Yes she is coming to OZ planed for next August. smile

Bondy

roi354

2,380 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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mgbond said:
I currently have a forge BOV and at some point I need to have a re circ BOV (BOV to air is not liked in OZ). What are my options, can I mod what I have or is it a new system?

Cheers

Bondy
If you can fit a short hose onto the outlet of the BOV then you could buy a small filter for the end. This is similar - noise wise - to what a recirc would give you as the recirc vents into the hose where the standard oil separator does, i.e. just downwind of the front air filter.

Also by changing to recirc I'm pretty sure you might need a remap to take account of the changes, although the ECU might learn this confused hopefully someone in the know will confirm...

snuffy

13,216 posts

313 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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You'll get a fine for having a dump to atmosphere BOV in Australia ? Why ?

Edited by snuffy on Thursday 19th November 17:19

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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When i lived in Aus plenty of cars had Dump Valves that vented to atmosphere

a recirculating valve puts hot air back into the intercooler, not fresh cold air

a dump valve is really there to stop a turbo stalling at high boost, none of the nobles came with them standard to my knowledge. High boost is pressure over 1.5 bar imho


andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Gadgeroonie said:
When i lived in Aus plenty of cars had Dump Valves that vented to atmosphere

a recirculating valve puts hot air back into the intercooler, not fresh cold air

a dump valve is really there to stop a turbo stalling at high boost, none of the nobles came with them standard to my knowledge. High boost is pressure over 1.5 bar imho
I agree turbos are too small to get stalled by boost pressure we run and regardless you have to question if it faster to build up boost pressure from nothing into the entire system or to have the turbo slightly slow but have full pressure still?

Bump valves are fitted to large turbos as the higher stall pressures (due to size of the vanes and higher boost) could snap the shaft.

I took mine off my cossie running 25psi because lag was less without it even tho it had a much bigger turbo than the Noble.

mgbond

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Thursday 19th November 2009
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snuffy said:
You'll get a fine for having a dump to atmosphere BOV in Australia ? Why ?

Edited by snuffy on Thursday 19th November 17:19
Not quite sure, it may not be a fine but they may force me to go and declare registration or get me to prove that it was on the car when it arrived and was certified.

Bondy

mgbond

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Thursday 19th November 2009
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Its interesting as I'm sure when I fitted my BOV I noticed the pic up between gear changes was much better?

Why could I not vent it into the air filter pipe and use the section where the old oil breather went. When changing gear the air would vent into the air filter line and escape out the filter before me flooring it again?

Bondy

snuffy

13,216 posts

313 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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mgbond said:
snuffy said:
You'll get a fine for having a dump to atmosphere BOV in Australia ? Why ?

Edited by snuffy on Thursday 19th November 17:19
Not quite sure, it may not be a fine but they may force me to go and declare registration or get me to prove that it was on the car when it arrived and was certified.

Bondy
Does that mean you can't import a car then if it's been modified from original spec ? Or do mean you can't modify it once it's been imported ?


mgbond

Original Poster:

6,749 posts

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Thursday 19th November 2009
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snuffy said:
mgbond said:
snuffy said:
You'll get a fine for having a dump to atmosphere BOV in Australia ? Why ?

Edited by snuffy on Thursday 19th November 17:19
Not quite sure, it may not be a fine but they may force me to go and declare registration or get me to prove that it was on the car when it arrived and was certified.

Bondy
Does that mean you can't import a car then if it's been modified from original spec ? Or do mean you can't modify it once it's been imported ?
Once its imported any mods need to be approved by an engineer apparently? I assume if you want to be legal.

I'm fitting a charge cooler and making sure its done before i go, they don't know what is std on the car so I can blag it.

Bondy

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I used a Turbosmart adjustable dump valve and adapted it by taking two pipes to the inlet about 6 inches down stream of the filters, the do an off the shelf internal jobbie now.

mgbond

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Friday 20th November 2009
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Adrian W said:
I used a Turbosmart adjustable dump valve and adapted it by taking two pipes to the inlet about 6 inches down stream of the filters, the do an off the shelf internal jobbie now.
Cheers Adrian, I'll look into it.

Bondy