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Left the Nob out for too long in the snow over Christmas without starting it. Finally got around to doing so and put it away in the garage. All was well. Now when I went to start it, it turns over quite quickly until it is turning over quite slowly! But not firing up. Got a feeling I just need to get a bit of oomph into the battery.
Do any of you chaps know a good point to get jump leads onto that is easier to access than the battery?
Do any of you chaps know a good point to get jump leads onto that is easier to access than the battery?
Hi Stephen,
If you place your positive lead from the positive (+) side of the battery that you are using to jump with onto the positive terminal on the starter motor this should have a heavy brown wire connected to it, and then the earth lead from the earth (-) side of the jump battery to a good earth point on the chassis, this should get you going.
good luck
Martyn
PS I have started my car like this twice after it standing for long periods without use,I now have a trickle charger connected to keep the battery topped up,the same battery fitted when I built the car in 2002.
If you place your positive lead from the positive (+) side of the battery that you are using to jump with onto the positive terminal on the starter motor this should have a heavy brown wire connected to it, and then the earth lead from the earth (-) side of the jump battery to a good earth point on the chassis, this should get you going.
good luck
Martyn
PS I have started my car like this twice after it standing for long periods without use,I now have a trickle charger connected to keep the battery topped up,the same battery fitted when I built the car in 2002.
Edited by trimman on Saturday 16th January 18:06
Edited by trimman on Saturday 16th January 20:32
Once your battery has got like this it really needs a proper overnight re-charge, not difficult imo to get your arm down there to get jump leads on, but your gonna have to get your arm down there anyway to get it recharged, otherwise you may nip to the shop one day and find it wont start again.
Thanks guys. My father in law has lent me a battery like device that plugs into the accessory socket to boost my battery. Gonna try it out today. Didn't know these things existed. Will let you know if its any good. Its called a 'Genius E-charge'. If not, it's jump lead time as pushing it up my drive is out of the question.
bernhund said:
Thanks guys. My father in law has lent me a battery like device that plugs into the accessory socket to boost my battery. Gonna try it out today. Didn't know these things existed. Will let you know if its any good. Its called a 'Genius E-charge'. If not, it's jump lead time as pushing it up my drive is out of the question.
I believe you will find that this won't work unless you have the key in the "on" position, which kind of defeats the purpose of trying to charge the battery. The accessory power plug is only powered when the car is running or the key is on. You will need a battry charger hooked directly to a live power plug or directly to the battery (this is best).caccobra said:
bernhund said:
Thanks guys. My father in law has lent me a battery like device that plugs into the accessory socket to boost my battery. Gonna try it out today. Didn't know these things existed. Will let you know if its any good. Its called a 'Genius E-charge'. If not, it's jump lead time as pushing it up my drive is out of the question.
I believe you will find that this won't work unless you have the key in the "on" position, which kind of defeats the purpose of trying to charge the battery. The accessory power plug is only powered when the car is running or the key is on. You will need a battry charger hooked directly to a live power plug or directly to the battery (this is best).I usually just stick my arm down there to put the positive charger or jumper lead on the battery, and hook the negative lead up to the chassis of the car. One of the four bolts that hold the right side motor mount to the engine works nicely for the ground. You can also remove the panel in front of the right rear wheel, and reach the battery terminal that way.
I've added a remote positive jump terminal (like this one - I'm sure something similar is available in the UK...) to a number of cars. Easy install, and you can jump or charge your battery without getting dirt on your sleeve!
I've added a remote positive jump terminal (like this one - I'm sure something similar is available in the UK...) to a number of cars. Easy install, and you can jump or charge your battery without getting dirt on your sleeve!
caccobra said:
bernhund said:
Thanks guys. My father in law has lent me a battery like device that plugs into the accessory socket to boost my battery. Gonna try it out today. Didn't know these things existed. Will let you know if its any good. Its called a 'Genius E-charge'. If not, it's jump lead time as pushing it up my drive is out of the question.
I believe you will find that this won't work unless you have the key in the "on" position, which kind of defeats the purpose of trying to charge the battery. The accessory power plug is only powered when the car is running or the key is on. You will need a battry charger hooked directly to a live power plug or directly to the battery (this is best).
Mine is live all the time even when key is out and immobiliser is on. I have to remember to unplug my Sat Nav every night.
But how does it charge the battery if it is draining it at the same time?? I can't find a link on google to read more about it?
I guess I am lucky. I was worried about my car battery being drained as I have not taken it out for about 1 month. However this morning it fired up first time no problem
, even my reverse light was working!!!
Hoyin
But how does it charge the battery if it is draining it at the same time?? I can't find a link on google to read more about it?
I guess I am lucky. I was worried about my car battery being drained as I have not taken it out for about 1 month. However this morning it fired up first time no problem
, even my reverse light was working!!!Hoyin
SimonJW said:
Trickle charger/conditioner - Halfords £40.
Leave it connected - +ve to battery terminal and -ve to engine mount bolt - for three days and your battery will be better than new.
Simon
Unfortunatly the standard Noble battery is not very good when it comes to recovering from discharge, especially if it's more than about 18 months old.Leave it connected - +ve to battery terminal and -ve to engine mount bolt - for three days and your battery will be better than new.
Simon
The Noble slighly overcharges the battery (as it doesn't have a full charge controller) which means if you do discharge an old battery to a point it won't start it will never really recover. Despite the hype these battery "conditioners" rarely can undo the damage. The 075 is, IMHO, underspeced for the cranking demands of the Noble but as long as you get a decent one and keep it charged it should last 3-4 years.
Replacement is straightforward, if quite fiddly as you have to take it out from underneath, and if you do replace it, get a Bosche HSB075 Silver as they are far better built than the standard 075 battery.
Halfords have them in stock
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...
J
joust said:
SimonJW said:
Trickle charger/conditioner - Halfords £40.
Leave it connected - +ve to battery terminal and -ve to engine mount bolt - for three days and your battery will be better than new.
Simon
Unfortunatly the standard Noble battery is not very good when it comes to recovering from discharge, especially if it's more than about 18 months old.Leave it connected - +ve to battery terminal and -ve to engine mount bolt - for three days and your battery will be better than new.
Simon
The Noble slighly overcharges the battery (as it doesn't have a full charge controller) which means if you do discharge an old battery to a point it won't start it will never really recover. Despite the hype these battery "conditioners" rarely can undo the damage. The 075 is, IMHO, underspeced for the cranking demands of the Noble but as long as you get a decent one and keep it charged it should last 3-4 years.
Replacement is straightforward, if quite fiddly as you have to take it out from underneath, and if you do replace it, get a Bosche HSB075 Silver as they are far better built than the standard 075 battery.
Halfords have them in stock
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...
J
I'd say that was a bargain
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