Discussion
HID's.
I fitted them to my GTO-3 and they are sooooooooo much better, I went for 35 watt ones rather than the higher wattage as the original lights dimmer when ticking over and also I had been warned about the heat on the clam.
As for the MOT, as they are after market they do not need a cleaning system ie, washers etc.
As long as they are correctly aligned then there will be no problem.
I had mine MOT'd last month and they even fixed my lights for me.
Andy
I fitted them to my GTO-3 and they are sooooooooo much better, I went for 35 watt ones rather than the higher wattage as the original lights dimmer when ticking over and also I had been warned about the heat on the clam.
As for the MOT, as they are after market they do not need a cleaning system ie, washers etc.
As long as they are correctly aligned then there will be no problem.
I had mine MOT'd last month and they even fixed my lights for me.
Andy
HIDs are generally illegal as an after-fit because they don't have a self levelling system. It will be down to the tester, but as long as they are aligned correctly you will generally pass a MOT.
Having a MOT passed does not make your car legal unfortunatly.
J
Having a MOT passed does not make your car legal unfortunatly.
DFT said:
Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps
Fact sheet: Aftermarket HID headlamps
December 2006
In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlampsFact sheet: Aftermarket HID headlamps
December 2006
In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
J
joust said:
HIDs are generally illegal as an after-fit because they don't have a self levelling system. It will be down to the tester, but as long as they are aligned correctly you will generally pass a MOT.
Having a MOT passed does not make your car legal unfortunatly.
J
As I read that it is really saying the headlight enclosure shpould be tested to prove the beam is correct and therefore very difficult to comply with,Having a MOT passed does not make your car legal unfortunatly.
DFT said:
Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps
Fact sheet: Aftermarket HID headlamps
December 2006
In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlampsFact sheet: Aftermarket HID headlamps
December 2006
In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.
J
i enquired as to whether they were legal when I bought mine and was told no problem even with no washer system etc.
My car failed on a headlight failing and a tax disc that was in the swept area so the tester was an absolute stickler for the rules, I guess its down to the tester on the day and whether he is in a good mood.
I think this pretty much covers it
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadla...
ETA
d'oh Joust got there first
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadla...
ETA
d'oh Joust got there first
Edited by Lakelord on Wednesday 3rd February 17:21
Lakelord said:
Your just copying Justinrjo64 said:
Hi.Have them fitted to mine, I am going to change them back this year as I had problems with them at the last MOT. If you are not planning a lot of night driving I would'nt bother.
I just put in the high brightness H4's (or 7's, can't remember) and they are just plug and play, they are much brighter and do for me.Hi Roy, have you been getting my emails regarding meets in the south?
Bondy
mgbond said:
rjo64 said:
Hi.Have them fitted to mine, I am going to change them back this year as I had problems with them at the last MOT. If you are not planning a lot of night driving I would'nt bother.
I just put in the high brightness H4's (or 7's, can't remember) and they are just plug and play, they are much brighter and do for me.Hi Roy, have you been getting my emails regarding meets in the south?
Bondy
Hi Bondy. Yes thanks for the heads up, need to do some work on the car. Have bought some bits and bobs also want to do some paint work on chassis while I an messing around. Just need some warmer weather!! Hope all is well with your car.
Hi Roy, have you been getting my emails regarding meets in the south?
Bondy
mgbond said:
rjo64 said:
Hi.Have them fitted to mine, I am going to change them back this year as I had problems with them at the last MOT. If you are not planning a lot of night driving I would'nt bother.
I just put in the high brightness H4's (or 7's, can't remember) and they are just plug and play, they are much brighter and do for me.Hi Roy, have you been getting my emails regarding meets in the south?
Bondy
The devil said:
mgbond said:
rjo64 said:
Hi.Have them fitted to mine, I am going to change them back this year as I had problems with them at the last MOT. If you are not planning a lot of night driving I would'nt bother.
I just put in the high brightness H4's (or 7's, can't remember) and they are just plug and play, they are much brighter and do for me.Hi Roy, have you been getting my emails regarding meets in the south?
Bondy
Roy, car fine (well the Ninja 600 thought so on saturday
) hope you get out in yours soon as a few meets starting again and it won't be long before goodwood starts up again.Bondy
The devil said:
HID's.
I fitted them to my GTO-3 and they are sooooooooo much better, I went for 35 watt ones rather than the higher wattage as the original lights dimmer when ticking over and also I had been warned about the heat on the clam.
As for the MOT, as they are after market they do not need a cleaning system ie, washers etc.
As long as they are correctly aligned then there will be no problem.
I had mine MOT'd last month and they even fixed my lights for me.
Andy
What kit are they Andy? A H7 or H4 kit?I fitted them to my GTO-3 and they are sooooooooo much better, I went for 35 watt ones rather than the higher wattage as the original lights dimmer when ticking over and also I had been warned about the heat on the clam.
As for the MOT, as they are after market they do not need a cleaning system ie, washers etc.
As long as they are correctly aligned then there will be no problem.
I had mine MOT'd last month and they even fixed my lights for me.
Andy
Edited by Stella Artois on Wednesday 3rd February 22:45
Stella Artois said:
The devil said:
HID's.
I fitted them to my GTO-3 and they are sooooooooo much better, I went for 35 watt ones rather than the higher wattage as the original lights dimmer when ticking over and also I had been warned about the heat on the clam.
As for the MOT, as they are after market they do not need a cleaning system ie, washers etc.
As long as they are correctly aligned then there will be no problem.
I had mine MOT'd last month and they even fixed my lights for me.
Andy
What kit are they Andy? A H7 or H4 kit?I fitted them to my GTO-3 and they are sooooooooo much better, I went for 35 watt ones rather than the higher wattage as the original lights dimmer when ticking over and also I had been warned about the heat on the clam.
As for the MOT, as they are after market they do not need a cleaning system ie, washers etc.
As long as they are correctly aligned then there will be no problem.
I had mine MOT'd last month and they even fixed my lights for me.
Andy
Edited by Stella Artois on Wednesday 3rd February 22:45
think they are
Having had HID's on mine for a couple of years now I would never go back, even to the supposedly high intensity H4s (or whatever) which I tried before fitting the HIDs. As someone said, if the HIDs are correctly aligned you shouldn't have a problem with most reasonable MoT centres. I have never once been flashed (with headlights, that is) whilst driving the Noble at night, but have in my Beemer which has OEM xenons with self-levelers etc. Part of the reason is that the Noble is so damned low that you would almost have to point the headlights skywards to cause a problem to other drivers. So for me, being able to see the road ahead clearly without causing any problem to on-coming traffic is far more important (safety perspective) than getting too uptight about the fine letter of the law.
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