Tough week .....now no oil pressure !!!
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Well after getting the engine in last week i have been burning the midnight oil to get it all done ....and well to be honest its been a bit of a battle 
todays plan was to fit front turbo then spin it up to get some oil pressure before finishing the fuel system next week and start up ..........................................did not go to plan as i seem to have no oil pressure !!!! don,t know why but i,m bloody knackered and have to admit i need a few days off the project as i feel pretty low !! 
todays plan was to fit front turbo then spin it up to get some oil pressure before finishing the fuel system next week and start up ..........................................did not go to plan as i seem to have no oil pressure !!!! don,t know why but i,m bloody knackered and have to admit i need a few days off the project as i feel pretty low !! Hi Simon
Sorry I emailed you earlier for an update and to pick your brain
However if it helps you have inspired my to get my hands dirty and try and improve a number of areas myself. I also almost bought an Ultima (ask Kyle!) having seen what you had done.
I am sure the oil pressure is something obvious which will come to you when you get the chance to have some time off the project and get your thoughts clear.
Good luck and all the best - I am sure we are all eager to see what you have managed to achieve with you Noble...and it is just a matter of time until you get it back on the road
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Sorry I emailed you earlier for an update and to pick your brain
However if it helps you have inspired my to get my hands dirty and try and improve a number of areas myself. I also almost bought an Ultima (ask Kyle!) having seen what you had done.
I am sure the oil pressure is something obvious which will come to you when you get the chance to have some time off the project and get your thoughts clear.
Good luck and all the best - I am sure we are all eager to see what you have managed to achieve with you Noble...and it is just a matter of time until you get it back on the road
....Hi guys , TDS have been built by a specialist company along with pickup , have checked clearances and all ok , at a bit of a loss at the moment must be somthing simple as the bottom end has not been touched !! Thanks for the kind words Dave nice to know I can still be a bad influence on people :-)
david.mt said:
However if it helps you have inspired my to get my hands dirty and try and improve a number of areas myself. I also almost bought an Ultima (ask Kyle!) having seen what you had done.
I remember us having a few email exchanges about my old canam Dont worry Simon Im pretty sure its a simple thing... I remeasured the sump again and there is loads of clearence so pretty sure its not that... Im still thinking its the front oil cooler somehow.... I owe you dinner so the offer is there for me to come up tomorrow night with a few hrs of spanner time before we go out
Got the engine assembled today, gona put the gearbox on tomorrow and in the car tomorrow, just hope the engine mounts arrive tomorrow morning
Are you running an engine oil stat ?
If not then on my car, the cold oil pressure was halved by running a FM oil cooler and an extra 1.5 L of oil used, so maybe its just taking time to pump it all that way, also the turbo oil feeds are in the heads which are a long way from the pump so will get the oil last.
If you have access to the cooler, whip off the line from the engine and see if there is oil there ?
Steve
If not then on my car, the cold oil pressure was halved by running a FM oil cooler and an extra 1.5 L of oil used, so maybe its just taking time to pump it all that way, also the turbo oil feeds are in the heads which are a long way from the pump so will get the oil last.
If you have access to the cooler, whip off the line from the engine and see if there is oil there ?
Steve
A couple of suggestions - I`m not too familiar with this engine but:
a) Do you have a pressure gauge or just the oil pressure warning light - are you sure that the electrical connection was made to the oil pressure switch? I`m assuming if the connections weren`t made then the open circuit would keep the warning light on even if there was pressure in the oil ways.
b) Could the oil pressure relief valve be jammed open?
Hope you find the cause and it`s a simple one.
a) Do you have a pressure gauge or just the oil pressure warning light - are you sure that the electrical connection was made to the oil pressure switch? I`m assuming if the connections weren`t made then the open circuit would keep the warning light on even if there was pressure in the oil ways.
b) Could the oil pressure relief valve be jammed open?
Hope you find the cause and it`s a simple one.
Morning guys, great support from the forum !!!thanks Andy and Mike for the offers if i cannot get it sorted tonite might take you up on it !!! thanks very much for all the advice and offers promise to buy everyone a beer when we meet up !! i have fitted a thermostatic sandwich plate so hopefully the new front cooler is not effecting the oil system at the moment, bit concerned i could have a issue with the sandwich plate going to check that tonite also going to get a new filter and fill it with oil whip out plugs and try again ........fingers crossed !!!
Hi Bob , no gauge just a light which is connected ,don,t know about pressure relief valve .
Hi Bob , no gauge just a light which is connected ,don,t know about pressure relief valve .
TuxMan said:
Morning guys, great support from the forum !!!thanks Andy and Mike for the offers if i cannot get it sorted tonite might take you up on it !!! thanks very much for all the advice and offers promise to buy everyone a beer when we meet up !! i have fitted a thermostatic sandwich plate so hopefully the new front cooler is not effecting the oil system at the moment, bit concerned i could have a issue with the sandwich plate going to check that tonite also going to get a new filter and fill it with oil whip out plugs and try again ........fingers crossed !!!
Hi Bob , no gauge just a light which is connected ,don,t know about pressure relief valve .
Hope things work out, but, FWIW a thermostatic sandwich plate actually has a small bypass so that the "cold" oil flow to the cooler is not completely cut off (but the flow is drastically reduced until the oil gets some real heat in it). This is the same way the thermostat for the engine coolant works.Hi Bob , no gauge just a light which is connected ,don,t know about pressure relief valve .
Hi Guys .....well what a night been at it since 6 ish but got it sorted ........had to fill and prime as much stuff as i could even squirted oil back down the turbo feed into the head !!! looks like it was just very dry and needed primeing although i,m a bit supprised that a modern engine needed it !!! also took 10 litres of oil and i,m still going to need abit more 
got all the exhaust back on as well so ready to fit new intercooler tomorrow night ,hopefully be ready for startup saturday 
once again thanks for all the advice and support best thing about pistonheads !! Simon
got all the exhaust back on as well so ready to fit new intercooler tomorrow night ,hopefully be ready for startup saturday once again thanks for all the advice and support best thing about pistonheads !! Simon 
happy-days, good work 
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