Anyone notice Autocar today
Anyone notice Autocar today
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Adrian W

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15,450 posts

257 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Supercar group test, M600, Fiat458, LFA and something else.

They say the best car is the 458



The other car was a Porsche thingy

Edited by Adrian W on Thursday 5th August 13:57

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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458 is a stunning looking car

TIGERSIX

969 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Adrian W said:
Supercar group test, M600, Fiat458, LFA and something else.

They say the best car is the 458
Hope you have packed some googles and flippers for your stay .laugh

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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The 458 is stunning to look at in the flesh as it were.
The interior is typical Ferrari but better for not having ste stalks for wipers indicators etc, they're all controlled via buttons on the steering wheel that at first seems a little strange but I like the idea.
all the radio, satnav etc, is crammed into the instrument binnacle and looks a little busy.
I'm going to try and get one by hook or by crook but It'll be 6 months-ish for the first demonstrators to hit the market.
Just got to find an easy bank to rob now.

Mike Tuckwood

1,261 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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It does look very nice, not a big Ferrari fan, but this is the nicest one yet by miles.
The guy with the business opposite to our place already has his deposit in, part chopping his 430 in for it.


Mike.

mark cundy

97 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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A friend of mine has a 430 and it is nothing compared to a 400 Noble. Have been out together in his and mine and he complained that no one looked at his.

jamescmr2

713 posts

208 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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The interior on the F430 is better than the Noble for sure IMO but the Noble just has wow factor.

When i left the Goodwood festival of speed a month ago i followed a Burgandy coloured 458 for a mile until he turned into a pub. number plate 'FER 1'. i wonder who that privileged person was!?

James

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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mark cundy said:
A friend of mine has a 430 and it is nothing compared to a 400 Noble. Have been out together in his and mine and he complained that no one looked at his.
That's like trying to compare a gourmet burger with a wagyu fillet steak
They are too different in too many ways.
My M400 was always getting waves and people asking "is it a kit car", "how fast is it"?
On the other hand my F430 also got waves (the five finger fist type) and people never asked how fast because they already knew and a big plus is the Ferrari soundtrack is fantastic.
Back in the real world an F430 is faster overall,(flamesuit on) but given the choice between a Wagyu steak and a gourmet burger, I'd have the burger.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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what are the prices of them ?

arabian

503 posts

204 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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sorry guys, I am probably being a complete bonehead who knows nothing about cars, but I actually dont like the 458, and like it even less after I saw the dashboard on top gear. I can appreciate its performance, and the history of ferrari etc but I just dont like it. In the same way i can appreciate the Veyron, but dont like it.

I'm going to stick with my £22,000 Noble thanks - and keep smiling with the interest people show in it and the enjoyment it gives me for a fraction of the price.nuts

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Gadgeroonie said:
what are the prices of them ?
£165,000. Bare bones. yikes

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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F.C. said:
Gadgeroonie said:
what are the prices of them ?
£165,000. Bare bones. yikes
It says £169546 for the 458 in the article which corresponds with what I was told - £170k plus options.

I thought the M600 actually came out pretty well, certainly better than the LFA anyway, but as they say, the badge is against it at that price.

The best bit was what they said about the M400 "You won't find a car that corners harder or accelerates much quicker for £400k, and one of these will cost you only £40k. Just don't buy one that's sick or damaged." It was just a pity they used a picture of a 2.5 or 3.0. rolleyes

bernhund

3,798 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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I thought the M600 actually came out pretty well, certainly better than the LFA anyway, but as they say, the badge is against it at that price.

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Why are people so concerned about 'racing pedigree'? It's nice if a car is from a certain marque I suppose, but they all started somewhere didn't they. It's about time the 'snobs' in the motoring press accepted there are better cars out there than Ferrari's. They're like 15 year old school boys sometimes, Ferrari this Ferrari that. Sounds like they're all scared they may come home to a horses head in their beds! Rant over, thank you (no offence caused I hope)

jamescmr2

713 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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ha ha, thats quite funny. there is something about Ferraris, the sound is my favourite.

And, there's nothing wring with a GTO3 ha ha

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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bernhund said:
Why are people so concerned about 'racing pedigree'? It's nice if a car is from a certain marque I suppose, but they all started somewhere didn't they. It's about time the 'snobs' in the motoring press accepted there are better cars out there than Ferrari's. They're like 15 year old school boys sometimes, Ferrari this Ferrari that. Sounds like they're all scared they may come home to a horses head in their beds! Rant over, thank you (no offence caused I hope)
True but it's very difficult to be truly unbiased as everyone has their own prejudices, whether they're concious of them or not. Also I expect they're mindful of the fact that, were they to be less than enthusiastic about a car from certain manufacturers, they wouldn't get access to the next offering from them in the future.

bernhund

3,798 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Also I expect they're mindful of the fact that, were they to be less than enthusiastic about a car from certain manufacturers, they wouldn't get access to the next offering from them in the future.
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Which is why Clarkson was happy to drive a £170k car which has indicators that can't be used when driving and a speedo that is hidden by a sat nav I suppose!

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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F.C. said:
Gadgeroonie said:
what are the prices of them ?
£165,000. Bare bones. yikes
Expect around 180-200k speced.

We've now got two 458s at the car club. One was 185k, the other just over 200k (although the 7k luggage set was the reason for the last one being over 200).

J

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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bernhund said:
Which is why Clarkson was happy to drive a £170k car which has indicators that can't be used when driving and a speedo that is hidden by a sat nav I suppose!
Neither of those issues are "real". The speedo is repeated in the left TFT and according to the highway code, you indicate and then turn the wheel smile

Clarkson pointed them out for fun entertainment, which is what TopGear is. I like that sort of tommfoolery personally.

J

Rob_W

1,070 posts

243 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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joust said:
Neither of those issues are "real". The speedo is repeated in the left TFT and according to the highway code, you indicate and then turn the wheel smile


J
So I'm turning right at a roundabout and will need to start indicating left (to exit) whilst still turning right, not so easy smile

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

230 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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joust said:
although the 7k luggage set was the reason for the last one being over 200.
Blimey that makes the Noble luggage set look good value. Personally I'd rather save the money - there's something about turning up in an expensive car at an upmarket hotel with all your stuff in plastic bags, just to see the look on the concierge's face. wink

joust said:
Clarkson pointed them out for fun entertainment, which is what TopGear is.
I'm still surprised by how many people take his views seriously though.