Drove a Tesla today, why are people offended by them
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I had to deliver a 20 plate Tesla model 3 standard range + to a customer today, 25 mile trip.
I believe its the entry level model and I think I want one, with 'only' 270 bhp, it feels a lot quicker than the numbers suggest, it's comfortable, quiet (in terms of wind noise) and the steering felt very in tune with the front wheels. I didn't thrash it or throw it round corners, only thing I did was accelerate in brief moments to speed limit and steer left to right once and the steering felt more connected than my previous M240i.
The fit and finish seemed fine during my brief drive, to be honest, there isn't much to judge it by as it's so minimalistic, the screen intimidated me at first but it's actually very simple and easy to use.
The 'soul' argument baffles me, tell me where the 'soul' is in a 520d?
Yes I would prefer a M4 but I had an M4 and I wouldn't be able to commute in one like I would a Tesla. In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!
Now in my case, I won't buy one but as a company car? Give me one over any 520 or E220
I believe its the entry level model and I think I want one, with 'only' 270 bhp, it feels a lot quicker than the numbers suggest, it's comfortable, quiet (in terms of wind noise) and the steering felt very in tune with the front wheels. I didn't thrash it or throw it round corners, only thing I did was accelerate in brief moments to speed limit and steer left to right once and the steering felt more connected than my previous M240i.
The fit and finish seemed fine during my brief drive, to be honest, there isn't much to judge it by as it's so minimalistic, the screen intimidated me at first but it's actually very simple and easy to use.
The 'soul' argument baffles me, tell me where the 'soul' is in a 520d?
Yes I would prefer a M4 but I had an M4 and I wouldn't be able to commute in one like I would a Tesla. In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!
Now in my case, I won't buy one but as a company car? Give me one over any 520 or E220
It’s just people not liking things that are different and a change from the norm, for so long we’ve had stuff like the 3 series being the go to car especially for company car drivers and it’s now been replaced by the model 3
I think the early ones had some bad build quality but show me a American built car that isn’t
I think people hate on them because they hate the idea of electric cars but Tesla did it so well, coming up with the car and also putting in the infrastructure.
I think they’re a bit ugly but no worse than a i4.
People don’t like the big screen but again, you get used to it
People don’t like musk now but that’s just jumping on the bandwagon too
Not good to drive but still capable just like a Audi A4
I think the early ones had some bad build quality but show me a American built car that isn’t
I think people hate on them because they hate the idea of electric cars but Tesla did it so well, coming up with the car and also putting in the infrastructure.
I think they’re a bit ugly but no worse than a i4.
People don’t like the big screen but again, you get used to it
People don’t like musk now but that’s just jumping on the bandwagon too
Not good to drive but still capable just like a Audi A4
For commuting / company car reasons yes they make sense. But for me the overwhealming issue is the nature and pain around charging vs filling up with fuel.
Yes it's a thousand times better now than before and 'most' journeys it won't be a problem, but I just don't like the fact that it could be one.. however rare.
Also 30-45 minutes to charge up vs 5 minute petrol stop etc...
Not against people buying them if it works for them.. just not for me.
Not exclusive to Tesla, but all electric.
Yes it's a thousand times better now than before and 'most' journeys it won't be a problem, but I just don't like the fact that it could be one.. however rare.
Also 30-45 minutes to charge up vs 5 minute petrol stop etc...
Not against people buying them if it works for them.. just not for me.
Not exclusive to Tesla, but all electric.
Cristio Nasser said:
Objectively decent cars. Subjectively undesirable cars because of the Musk induced baggage they come with that most people just don t want to have to deal with.
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisisI won’t be buying an electric car as they certainly aren’t for me.
However, just got back from a holiday in the US and had several Uber rides in EV’s. The one that surprised me in being a bit better than I expected was actually the Mustang Mach E. We went in a few Model 3’s and I do think you could tell Tesla have been doing it longer than pretty much anyone else. But!…one Model 3’s steering wheel had badly peeled off which was a little eye opening!
However, just got back from a holiday in the US and had several Uber rides in EV’s. The one that surprised me in being a bit better than I expected was actually the Mustang Mach E. We went in a few Model 3’s and I do think you could tell Tesla have been doing it longer than pretty much anyone else. But!…one Model 3’s steering wheel had badly peeled off which was a little eye opening!
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?I'm not offended by Tesla's and actually prefer an EV for daily driving. I just find them ugly and bland to look at, don't like the low windscreen from the inside making it feel like you are sitting "on" it rather than "in" it and think they are far too common.
Not an EV issue, not a Musk issue but just a personal preference for one car over another.
Not an EV issue, not a Musk issue but just a personal preference for one car over another.
georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?Chestrockwell said:
georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
georgejoshington said:
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
When was the last time you saw the CEO of either supermarket sieg heil in front of the whole world?
The guys a genius, a bit weird, but a (very wealthy) genius.
I'm not an EV buyer but if I was it would be a Tesla. You have to hand it to Musk that he invested in the infrasture first before he started releasing the cars for sale with charging stations that are unique to his cars. Unlike any other EV that has to use any one of several charging station operators requiring owners to have an App/card/membership for each one. Excluding Tesla the other charging operators reminds me of the 80s when you had the VHS/Betamax/Phillips debacle before VHS won through.
Chestrockwell said:
I had to deliver a 20 plate Tesla model 3 standard range + to a customer today, 25 mile trip.
I believe its the entry level model and I think I want one, with 'only' 270 bhp, it feels a lot quicker than the numbers suggest, it's comfortable, quiet (in terms of wind noise) and the steering felt very in tune with the front wheels. I didn't thrash it or throw it round corners, only thing I did was accelerate in brief moments to speed limit and steer left to right once and the steering felt more connected than my previous M240i.
The fit and finish seemed fine during my brief drive, to be honest, there isn't much to judge it by as it's so minimalistic, the screen intimidated me at first but it's actually very simple and easy to use.
The 'soul' argument baffles me, tell me where the 'soul' is in a 520d?
Yes I would prefer a M4 but I had an M4 and I wouldn't be able to commute in one like I would a Tesla. In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!
Now in my case, I won't buy one but as a company car? Give me one over any 520 or E220
I've been in a Model 3 around Southampton half a dozen times, the ride quality was bloody terrible, I wouldnt buy one for that reason.I believe its the entry level model and I think I want one, with 'only' 270 bhp, it feels a lot quicker than the numbers suggest, it's comfortable, quiet (in terms of wind noise) and the steering felt very in tune with the front wheels. I didn't thrash it or throw it round corners, only thing I did was accelerate in brief moments to speed limit and steer left to right once and the steering felt more connected than my previous M240i.
The fit and finish seemed fine during my brief drive, to be honest, there isn't much to judge it by as it's so minimalistic, the screen intimidated me at first but it's actually very simple and easy to use.
The 'soul' argument baffles me, tell me where the 'soul' is in a 520d?
Yes I would prefer a M4 but I had an M4 and I wouldn't be able to commute in one like I would a Tesla. In fact, I sold my M240i because it cost too much to run to do a daily 30 mile commute. A Tesla wouldn't!
Now in my case, I won't buy one but as a company car? Give me one over any 520 or E220
InformationSuperHighway said:
For commuting / company car reasons yes they make sense. But for me the overwhealming issue is the nature and pain around charging vs filling up with fuel.
Yes it's a thousand times better now than before and 'most' journeys it won't be a problem, but I just don't like the fact that it could be one.. however rare.
Also 30-45 minutes to charge up vs 5 minute petrol stop etc...
Not against people buying them if it works for them.. just not for me.
Not exclusive to Tesla, but all electric.
People spout this about petrol station as if you never go to one and it’s go no fuelYes it's a thousand times better now than before and 'most' journeys it won't be a problem, but I just don't like the fact that it could be one.. however rare.
Also 30-45 minutes to charge up vs 5 minute petrol stop etc...
Not against people buying them if it works for them.. just not for me.
Not exclusive to Tesla, but all electric.
Or you go to one and it’s really busy
Or you go to one and it’s expansive
Remember post Covid when BP and shell said they had no drivers and prices shot up to £2 a litre and people queued for hours, then that woman set fire to her self in her kitchen cause she was keeping Jerry cans of fuel?
Chestrockwell said:
I don't understand how people can hate a car because of a person when that person hasn't done anything that has affected them personally yet they will willingly continue to shop in supermarkets like Tesco's and Sainsburys who are making record breaking billions in profits off the cost of living crisis
Musk owns around 13% of Tesla - the rest is institutional investments such as pension companies.People in the UK getting all handbaggy about Tesla and Musk is pretty funny.
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