Sport exhaust genuine retrofit or tuning
Discussion
I'm driving a new Pur without a valve exhaust.
Now I'm considering installing an aftermarket sports exhaust like Inox, Evox, GT Performance etc. or the original sports exhaust, which can be sourced for reasonable money.
I'm not sure if the tuning parts will actually make the sound fuller and more bassy/muffled, which would be important for me. I would not like to get a more metallic sound.
Can anybody comment on this?
Has anyone already retrofitted the original sports exhaust with manual control? Connecting it to the drive modes, is not my favorite solution.
Thank you!
Now I'm considering installing an aftermarket sports exhaust like Inox, Evox, GT Performance etc. or the original sports exhaust, which can be sourced for reasonable money.
I'm not sure if the tuning parts will actually make the sound fuller and more bassy/muffled, which would be important for me. I would not like to get a more metallic sound.
Can anybody comment on this?
Has anyone already retrofitted the original sports exhaust with manual control? Connecting it to the drive modes, is not my favorite solution.
Thank you!
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Sunday 7th September 11:49
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Sunday 7th September 11:53
My A110 has a non valved exhaust, I fitted a KTR exhaust a couple of months ago.
It has definitely improved the sound of my car, along with a Life110 air filter, it's a bassy sound, not metallic.
It does drone a wee bit on the motorway, but coming from an Elise its significantly quieter.
One thing to be aware of is that valved exhausts have a different exhaust mount (drivers side UK) to non valved exhausts.
It has definitely improved the sound of my car, along with a Life110 air filter, it's a bassy sound, not metallic.
It does drone a wee bit on the motorway, but coming from an Elise its significantly quieter.
One thing to be aware of is that valved exhausts have a different exhaust mount (drivers side UK) to non valved exhausts.
A110Wienerwald said:
I'm driving a new Pur without a valve exhaust.
Now I'm considering installing an aftermarket sports exhaust like Inox, Evox, GT Performance etc. or the original sports exhaust, which can be sourced for reasonable money.
I'm not sure if the tuning parts will actually make the sound fuller and more bassy/muffled, which would be important for me. I would not like to get a more metallic sound.
Can anybody comment on this?
Has anyone already retrofitted the original sports exhaust with manual control? Connecting it to the drive modes, is not my favorite solution.
Thank you!
Bear in mind that at least as much of the change in sound comes from the sound pipe which comes with the OEM sports exhaust, and from the pops, bangs and flatulence that are a result of the ECU settings (which can be altered by the Life 110 remap) . Personally I'd consider fitting just the sound pipe first - it's easy and not too expensive. Worth listening to the OEM sports exhaust first - opinions are personal and very varied.Now I'm considering installing an aftermarket sports exhaust like Inox, Evox, GT Performance etc. or the original sports exhaust, which can be sourced for reasonable money.
I'm not sure if the tuning parts will actually make the sound fuller and more bassy/muffled, which would be important for me. I would not like to get a more metallic sound.
Can anybody comment on this?
Has anyone already retrofitted the original sports exhaust with manual control? Connecting it to the drive modes, is not my favorite solution.
Thank you!
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Sunday 7th September 11:49
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Sunday 7th September 11:53
Thank you for your feedback!
After testing a GT with sports exhaust (and sound pipe) I was convinced, that I personally dont like the sound pipe.
Consequently it was ok for me, that my Pure had no package.
Now I am missing some more (louder) exhaust sound, but I would not like to have the intake sound close to my head.
After testing a GT with sports exhaust (and sound pipe) I was convinced, that I personally dont like the sound pipe.
Consequently it was ok for me, that my Pure had no package.
Now I am missing some more (louder) exhaust sound, but I would not like to have the intake sound close to my head.
Take a look at the new exhaust system being made by Wortec, designed by Alp (Pure, I think) owner Paul Spinks; it's fast become the preferred system by a growing number of owners.
Wortec's based down near Chichester which geographically may be an issue for you, but according to the reports and posts I've read and seen, their system will provide the kind of sounds you're looking for without any of the drone. It's also the lightest, available in stainless steel (or titanium for extra lightness) - and I'm getting my Alp fitted with one in a few days' time!
Wortec's based down near Chichester which geographically may be an issue for you, but according to the reports and posts I've read and seen, their system will provide the kind of sounds you're looking for without any of the drone. It's also the lightest, available in stainless steel (or titanium for extra lightness) - and I'm getting my Alp fitted with one in a few days' time!
CharleyFarley66 said:
Take a look at the new exhaust system being made by Wortec, designed by Alp (Pure, I think) owner Paul Spinks; it's fast become the preferred system by a growing number of owners.
Wortec's based down near Chichester which geographically may be an issue for you, but according to the reports and posts I've read and seen, their system will provide the kind of sounds you're looking for without any of the drone. It's also the lightest, available in stainless steel (or titanium for extra lightness) - and I'm getting my Alp fitted with one in a few days' time!
Will be interested to know what the noise levels are like for track use static and drive by.Wortec's based down near Chichester which geographically may be an issue for you, but according to the reports and posts I've read and seen, their system will provide the kind of sounds you're looking for without any of the drone. It's also the lightest, available in stainless steel (or titanium for extra lightness) - and I'm getting my Alp fitted with one in a few days' time!
There's a survey on FAR & the most chosen exhaust swap is to a single tube, & it looks like the one most used is made by a member there.
https://forum.alpinerenault.com/viewtopic.php?f=10...
There is also ~118 pages of exhaust chat here: (from p77) https://forum.alpinerenault.com/viewtopic.php?f=10...
From a post by the maker of the most popular single tube exhaust:
"You can mount it on two axle stands in 45 minutes while taking your time. There are washers that come into contact with the SBs so nothing to position. It is naturally centered. I thought about this point during the design.
Price: 280 including VAT excluding shipping costs"
If I didn't already have a titanium exhaust by Metal Customs, I'd give this one a try. Not a lot to lose if it's too loud or whatever. There are YT clips by others that have it installed so you can have a quick listen. So much reading to do....
Edit: added a pic
https://forum.alpinerenault.com/viewtopic.php?f=10...
There is also ~118 pages of exhaust chat here: (from p77) https://forum.alpinerenault.com/viewtopic.php?f=10...
From a post by the maker of the most popular single tube exhaust:
"You can mount it on two axle stands in 45 minutes while taking your time. There are washers that come into contact with the SBs so nothing to position. It is naturally centered. I thought about this point during the design.
Price: 280 including VAT excluding shipping costs"
If I didn't already have a titanium exhaust by Metal Customs, I'd give this one a try. Not a lot to lose if it's too loud or whatever. There are YT clips by others that have it installed so you can have a quick listen. So much reading to do....
Edit: added a pic
Edited by PHusername on Wednesday 10th September 08:17
CharleyFarley66 said:
Take a look at the new exhaust system being made by Wortec, designed by Alp (Pure, I think) owner Paul Spinks; it's fast become the preferred system by a growing number of owners.
Wortec's based down near Chichester which geographically may be an issue for you, but according to the reports and posts I've read and seen, their system will provide the kind of sounds you're looking for without any of the drone. It's also the lightest, available in stainless steel (or titanium for extra lightness) - and I'm getting my Alp fitted with one in a few days' time!
Thank you for your comment!Wortec's based down near Chichester which geographically may be an issue for you, but according to the reports and posts I've read and seen, their system will provide the kind of sounds you're looking for without any of the drone. It's also the lightest, available in stainless steel (or titanium for extra lightness) - and I'm getting my Alp fitted with one in a few days' time!
It would be of great help if you could post soundfiles before and after as well as sharing your own experience after the change.
A110Wienerwald said:
Interesting approach!
Anybody here experience with the improvement of sound through the change of downpipe? Is it substantially louder?
@friedl
Only 15 minutes. Looking forward to seeing you and talk petrol. ?
There is a different for sure! I`m just not 100% sure if I should only go for the downpipe or the exhaust (without valve) as well... there is a good video as well (I`m just not able to link the video from YouTube, because I`m a new member Anybody here experience with the improvement of sound through the change of downpipe? Is it substantially louder?
@friedl
Only 15 minutes. Looking forward to seeing you and talk petrol. ?
) Looking forward to see you on the roads
Cheers
Gottfried
Finally I decided for a Wortec steel exhaust without changing the OEM outlet, which I like.
Apart from the weight, a perfect improvement for me.
Substantially louder without loosing the cruising quality, muffled, bassy sound, excellent manufacturing quality and perfect fit. The key feature is the sound design.
A 100% recommendation from my point of view.
Apart from the weight, a perfect improvement for me.
Substantially louder without loosing the cruising quality, muffled, bassy sound, excellent manufacturing quality and perfect fit. The key feature is the sound design.
A 100% recommendation from my point of view.
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Tuesday 7th April 15:12
A110Wienerwald said:
Finally I decided for a Wortec steel exhaust without changing the OEM outlet, which I like.
Apart from the weight, a perfect improvement for me.
Substantially louder without loosing the cruising quality, muffled, bassy sound, excellent manufacturing quality and perfect fit. The key feature is the sound design.
A 100% recommendation from my point of view.
Interesting. I'd be keen to hear what it sounds like. And also quietly civilised at cruising speed?Apart from the weight, a perfect improvement for me.
Substantially louder without loosing the cruising quality, muffled, bassy sound, excellent manufacturing quality and perfect fit. The key feature is the sound design.
A 100% recommendation from my point of view.
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Tuesday 7th April 15:12
bigglesA110 said:
Interesting. I'd be keen to hear what it sounds like. And also quietly civilised at cruising speed?
It is always difficult to evaluate soundfiles. I also tried to make files before and after but it is hardly possible to understand based on that how the sound really changes. Wortec published soundfiles on FB, which you can check, but they are also far away from the impressive real change.For a real picture I can only recommend to hear the real car with the Wortec mounted.
I was told though Anneliese from Wortec (who is very friendly, honest and very competent), that meanwhile in the UK they sold more than 30 of their exhausts. So I guess she could tell you, where you can find the nearest A110 to make you own evaluation based on real sound.
From my point of view, also the cruising noise is really fine, the lady on my passenger seat is 100% happy with both "more sporty noise" amd reasonable cruising sound (same as Anneliese explained).
Hoping this information is usefull for you.
Our A110S has a wortec stainless steel exhaust which was fitted by the previous owner.
It sounds fantastic with such a deep bassy note to it, really elevates the whole experience. At motorway speeds it's very unobtrusive. There is a very slight boominess/resonance at around 2.2k rpm if I'm being ultra picky but overall it's a lovely bit of kit and highly recommended.
It sounds fantastic with such a deep bassy note to it, really elevates the whole experience. At motorway speeds it's very unobtrusive. There is a very slight boominess/resonance at around 2.2k rpm if I'm being ultra picky but overall it's a lovely bit of kit and highly recommended.
Safak said:
I have a specific question for both @A110Wienerwald and @jamesjc_uk. How the car sounds when you downshift? Any change on pops and bangs?
I can just compare with the normal (non valved) OEM exhaust:When using the normal mode the pops and bangs are very subtle and pleasent - I believe more present than with the OEM exhaust
In sports mode, the unnatural pops and bangs are still there, but as the whole noise is darker, they are less disturbing.
As far as I could find out, the only way to escape from these tacky noises is, to reprogram the ECU by removing the strange ignition timing, which is specially made to generate pops and bangs a s a kind of "sporty behaviour".
Maybe I go and visit an Austrian expert of A110 electronics in the near future. He promised, that he can remove various electronic specials of the Alpine (including the pops and bangs), which I dislike.
Remark:
Wortec modified/improved their exhaust step by step, so maybe my experience differs from former versions.
Edited by A110Wienerwald on Thursday 9th April 15:10
Safak said:
I have a specific question for both @A110Wienerwald and @jamesjc_uk. How the car sounds when you downshift? Any change on pops and bangs?
So I can only compare with a friends A110 who had the factory sports exhaust and from a couple of hours test drive in an 'S' before we bought ours back in November. The pops and bangs with the wortec seem bassier and more 'natural' although I agree that the way the car is mapped to produce them is completely over-the-top (I think only modern day BMW M-cars are worse in this respect). If the car was a daily, I would seek to have them mapped out or certainly reduced but as it's only a weekend toy, I can live with it. I understand Wortec's new ecu tuning package is being launched next and is rumored to have the option to stop or reduce them.
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