Ineos to manufacture in USA

[Lefty]

FT article behind paywall

Synopsis:

Chief executive Lynn Calder told the Financial Times the group aimed to start producing its Grenadier off-roader in America “as quickly as possible” to meet local demand.


https://www.ft.com/content/88ee6f7a-8377-401b-93f1...

[Jon39]

Lefty said:

FT article behind paywall

Synopsis:

Chief executive Lynn Calder told the Financial Times the group aimed to start producing its Grenadier off-roader in America as quickly as possible to meet local demand.


https://www.ft.com/content/88ee6f7a-8377-401b-93f1...

A little secret.

https://archive.ph/awdgB

[Lefty]

Thanks for that, I used to use 12 foot ladder but it got shut down

Anyway. I think the Ineos headlines are really about making a point. A lot of the constituent parts would still need to be imported to the USA. I can’t see them bailing out of Hambach. Perhaps they’ll keep it for RoW and try to make an assembly plant (or subcontract it) in the US for the Americas.

Seems they are selling quite well there though, overall good news.

I’m not convinced there is a market for the fusilier, more variants of the Grenadier would appeal though. XLWB van and single cab based on QM chassis, LWB 2 door van based on Grenadier chassis and an SWB van and station wagon, maybe even a soft top.

[Phud]

Lefty said:

Thanks for that, I used to use 12 foot ladder but it got shut down

Anyway. I think the Ineos headlines are really about making a point. A lot of the constituent parts would still need to be imported to the USA. I can t see them bailing out of Hambach. Perhaps they ll keep it for RoW and try to make an assembly plant (or subcontract it) in the US for the Americas.

Seems they are selling quite well there though, overall good news.

I m not convinced there is a market for the fusilier, more variants of the Grenadier would appeal though. XLWB van and single cab based on QM chassis, LWB 2 door van based on Grenadier chassis and an SWB van and station wagon, maybe even a soft top.

Agree with the model variation, my gut feeling is the fusilier is a good idea or picture, if one looks at 90's they did not do well.

It would make sense to offload LHD to America not in full but partial as Hambach already does RHD and Aus and SA seem to be a large market.

Given the USA seemingly allows rather more modification than other countries, base chassis might work too

[Lefty]

Yeah. You can already buy a bare chassis QM



And LeTech will do a single cab conversion if you have deep pockets

[Phud]

Don't start me, I want a QM as well as my field master!!


It's only my thoughts, however, besides the cluster that is the lack of documents, the concept of the Grenadier seems to be taking shape as we will supply modules, basic chassis and you create what you want.

I am looking forward to the first LS swap and the turbo it in teh USA to see what that comes out as.


The UK market is tiny, I find it a great vehicle.

[Lefty]

Agreed. I have a 2023 Trialmaster and, like most owners, love it.

I think most people who wanted one bought one ASAP and are likely to hold on to them so it’s not really a surprise they’re not selling loads of them here. It’s certainly a niche vehicle, the vast majority of SUV buyers want an SUV, not a live-axled, ladder-chassis truck.

Lyn Calder has been fairly open that European sales aren’t where they wanted them to be but US sales are well above expectation - probably part of the discussion about manufacturing / assembling the there