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Ferg

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15,242 posts

280 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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seansverige

719 posts

205 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Solid effort. Although you can see where the major features have been borrowed from, it works pretty well as whole. Could do with a few tweaks, but fit and finish (surfaces, shutlines, etc.) looks impressive full stop, thought it'd be nice to confirm from pics bigger than 600px... Most impressed with retaining / re-using of the glasshouse: have always wondered why this hasn't been done before and be interested to know if it's a cut'n'shut (in the nicest possible way) or they've taken moulds. Look like S-Max / Galaxy gill vents, again an idea that's been waiting to pop: lots of such details out there, waiting to be used.

Couldn't face reading through whole MOT / IVA tirade (BTW the Brits didn't invent the CRT TV, an American did) but hardly presents most professional side to potential customer. Expecting to get by on just an MOT was optimistic, and ranting about SVA / IVA system is unlikely to change anything; surely talking to the regulators before setting upon a course of action - especially when there's scope for interpretation - would have been less stressful, and possibly resulted in a better outcome. Didn't see an answer as to whether they'll all have to be on Q's

p1doc

3,601 posts

207 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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looks nice
martin

Yazza54

20,206 posts

204 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Looks ugly to me

Russ Bost

456 posts

232 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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Yazza54 said:
Looks ugly to me
Needs to go to specsavers! tongue out

I think that's a very attractive modern design, can't please everyone all the time, but would have thought that would please most for most of!

Edited by Russ Bost on Sunday 12th June 23:09

Yazza54

20,206 posts

204 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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Russ Bost said:
Yazza54 said:
Looks ugly to me
Needs to go to specsavers! :P

I think that's a very attractive modern design, can't please everyone all the time, but would have thought that would please most for most of!
I just don't think it looks right at all.

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

253 months

Sunday 12th June 2011
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I like it very much, I have to say.

Jonty355

4,423 posts

236 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Could do with a different choice of lights as they let it down. Its like they're an afterthought. Also maybe lower the body a touch.

With the lights maybe take a tip from older TVRs when using lights from another car, and blend them in better, or hise them behind perspex like on the back of a chimera with the mk3 fiesta tail lights.

smash

2,062 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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It's so nearly there - overall very impressive - there's some lovely details on there. Moans? For me the nose isn't aggresive enough - I think a backward rake chin rather than the forward slightly "shovel" one would suit it better. The chrome trim on all the parts bin stuff just looks nasty and totally at odds with the boutique look but that's an easy fix - black, black and black! I also agree with Jonty355 that it could do with sitting down a bit. Finally I don't think the choice of rims show it off to it's best. I accept all that is being picky and it's extremely easy to be critical (although I would hope it's constructive) as a bystander who hasn't invested what must be hundreds of man hours on this thing - as I say bloody impressive for one off concept.

What I'm not sure about is what the actual point of it/the website is? Is it a CV for design skills? an attempt to start a kit car business? an attempt to start low volume specialist turnkey? or an attempt to snag major manufacturer acquisition of rights and full scale production? - the company themselves don't seem to know and from the website content they must be engineers and not marketers.

I wonder, has anyone ever tried to take a concept car onto Dragon's Den?

paulpsz008

463 posts

231 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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There are bits I like and bits I don't, and I'm sure with some more development the details could be ironed out.
BUT... Have i miss understood or is this a bodykit for a Ford Cougar?

seansverige

719 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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paulpsz008 said:
There are bits I like and bits I don't, and I'm sure with some more development the details could be ironed out.
BUT... Have i miss understood or is this a bodykit for a Ford Cougar?
If it were then surely an MOT would have sufficed? In "Our Story / The Start - Part Two", they mention moving screen & roof 8" forward and 4" down, and engine to rear.

I also think it rides a little high, but the impression is compounded by what look like generous wheelarch clearances and the sill section is a bit weak, especially under the door. Aside from exotica lookalikes was trying to think of similar cars & all I could think of is the Minotaur - and it's clearly light years ahead of that...

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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paulpsz008 said:
There are bits I like and bits I don't, and I'm sure with some more development the details could be ironed out.
BUT... Have i miss understood or is this a bodykit for a Ford Cougar?
Isn't the engine in a different place? confused

paulpsz008

463 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Arthur Jackson said:
Isn't the engine in a different place? confused
Fair enough I hadn't read it properly.
Still, would they not have been better using a bespoke spaceframe chassis.
By all means use the cougar as a donor and even use the windows etc if required.
I'm sure they'd end up with a better car in all respects?

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

253 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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The man behind the project is one of the most successful kitcar manufacturers of recent years.

paulpsz008

463 posts

231 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Arthur Jackson said:
The man behind the project is one of the most successful kitcar manufacturers of recent years.
Fair enough, I'm open mined enough to give it a chance. Any more details on the future plans?

skwdenyer

18,519 posts

263 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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paulpsz008 said:
Arthur Jackson said:
The man behind the project is one of the most successful kitcar manufacturers of recent years.
Fair enough, I'm open mined enough to give it a chance. Any more details on the future plans?
He may be just as described, but this is not a kit car. It is the radical alteration of an existing monocoque, which is a whole new ball game. I'd be wanting to see some serious analysis and design work to justify an assertion that it is safe before going anywhere near it. There is almost no chance that one could make a business out of modifying Cougars in this way IMHO; it is just a - albeit aesthetically well-executed - cut-and-shut job. That fact alone is why the IVA exists, and why his ranting about the IVA on his site is just so much silliness. I wouldn't want to buy a car built this way from somebody who thought a few hundred pounds for the IVA was expensive; that indicates that he doesn't have sufficient resources to do the required analysis and testing to demonstrate the safety of the finished product.

Could one, instead, productionise the body on a different chassis? Well, yes, but then why would one want to? To use a few existing panels?

I admire the chap for his skill in delivering this interesting one-off. But in business terms it seems like a dead-end.