countach replica
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Peterpiston

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2 posts

173 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Where's the best place to look for a Countach replica?

khm

340 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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http://www.lamboreplica.co.uk/
good place to get help, or just contact dave harrison at dc supercars
depend really what you want from the car either a show car or road car or something that looks the part from a distance - completed or part built?
how deep are your pocket's LOL

Peterpiston

Original Poster:

2 posts

173 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Thanks!
that's a great resource smile

Roberty

1,180 posts

193 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Peterpiston said:
Where's the best place to look for a Countach replica?
The scrap yard!

khm

340 posts

222 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Roberty said:
The scrap yard!
won't be many there with a fibreglass body ??!! lol

grimfandango

372 posts

206 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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If your serious, theres one made in New Zealand that won the Newzealand rally or something like that. It was called the Countessa I think, thats what I'd build if I had the money and wanted one.

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Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

245 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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The scrap yard!
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I have never seen a Countach replica in a scrap yard? Please tell me about such places??

migwell2

40 posts

176 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Dont think the countessa was an exact replica,pretty poor actually, best one thats available still is the Mirage, available from Dave Harrison at DC Supercars, he's been in the lambo scene since day 1, he does all the parts.

jets

8 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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I think the New Zealand was called a Countess, from memory it was a UK kit that had the body and chassis modified to improve looks and handling and as Grimfandango mentioned was used in motorsport, the Contessa was an early kit that is not very accurate, would agree with Migwell that the Mirage mk2 is a very good kit and is still available

rampageturke

2,625 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Furyblade_Lee said:
I have never seen a Countach replica in a scrap yard? Please tell me about such places??
the joke shop

Edited by rampageturke on Thursday 25th August 13:22

Iwantoneofthose

355 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Steffan

10,362 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I admire anyone who has the drive to start a project of this sort. Its a hell of a build.

Unless you are a very experienced builder of project cars I would caution serious thinking. If you have built such cars before then I would think there are a number of part finished kits about which might in this case be worth a look.

But getting a Countach through the IVA will be a challenge in itself. And VERY expensive. And you will need IVA on such a car finished nowadays.

I worked on one in the mid 1980's an absolute nightmare of a car potentially magnificent but certainly very very difficult to build and trim and surely the most commonly sold partly finished Kit Car. Owner sold it part completed.I wonder why.

Over the years I have seen literally dozens move from owner to owner uncompleted and still uncompleted. Many of these uncompleted kits are still about. I follow them round Ebay.

I am building several kit cars at the moment. These include a Robin Hood, Midas, JC Locost, Mini special, Convertible Cooper and others. I build lots because I am retired and love kit cars. But each one takes a lot of work.

I would respectfully suggest you consider building a product such as the MEV EXOCET or similar thought through one donor project.

This could be on the road and drivable WITHOUT IVA in six months. With a Countach it could take years. Literally.

I have no connection with MEV I just think a one donor non IVA kit car is a hell of a lot easier to build. You could be driving one of these for years before the Countach.

But either way I wish you well and good luck.

smeagol

1,947 posts

305 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Just to back up staffan's comments. I bought an uncompleted westfield 1988 SE and got it through the IVA this year and that was hard enough. There are so many "little niggles" with old kit cars that getting them through a strict IVA test is hard. Far harder than buying a new kit car which manufacturers have tackled the law.
The kit advertised above has lots missing (seats, trim, lights etc.) These are all mega-bucks for a countach replica http://www.euroworksexotics.com/parts.htm AND they didn't have to pass the IVA when the original car was designed by Lamboughini. The first initial problems I can think of are:
Noise - V8 Chevvy are well known how for quiet they can be laugh New regs are <98DB (ouch)
Emmisions - New engine = new emmisions limits = catalytic converter eek
Visibility/edges eg mirrors etc. could be an unfixable problem

So unless you are experienced I would be very wary of buying a second hand kit for a start and doubly careful regarding Countach replicas. Remember if the kit is second hand you have no recourse to the original manufacturer if it won't pass modern laws.

ezakimak

1,871 posts

257 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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smeagol said:
The first initial problems I can think of are:
Noise - V8 Chevvy are well known how for quiet they can be laugh New regs are <98DB (ouch)
to be fair, the original countach v12 wasent exactly quiet either, lots and lots of cam and valve train noise there not to mention the note of the pipes. dont know how u make an 8 sound like a 12

smeagol

1,947 posts

305 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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That's the point, the Countach will be loud, its meant to be. The IVA limit is 98DB so you would struggle to get it down to that level to pass.

Steffan

10,362 posts

249 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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smeagol said:
That's the point, the Countach will be loud, its meant to be. The IVA limit is 98DB so you would struggle to get it down to that level to pass.
Precisely correct.

Kit builders need to appreciate the rules of the game have permanently changed.

In days gone by I built umpteen kits starting with a Falcon kit from Pellandine and an E93A Prefect in 1963. In the 70's and 80's I built all sorts including several Duttons, which were at the economy end of the market. There is no way (economically) ANY of these kits could be registered today under IVA. NOT A HOPE. Nothing in these cars would comply with current requirements.

Just as an example several Dutton kits at the time had seats bolted onto the unreinforced fibreglass floor. There is no way this is safe in anybodies book. I am not knocking Duttons: I own two still and I actually have had a good relationship with Tim Dutton-Woolley over thirty years.

It is just an example of the changes there have been in approach and bureaucracy. Complying with IVA on old kit cars IS A NIGHTMARE. I KNOW.

There is a whole plethora of problems with unfinished kits and this is magnified with a challenging powerful kit like the Countach. I have driven the original (breathtaking) years ago and six Countach replicas over the years and not one of them was anything like the original.

Two Countachs replicas were really very good cars but the awesome power of the original was in a different league. The other four were indescribably bad undrivable and unsafe on the road.

I strongly advise the OP to consider his options. Building a kit car is a great challenge and I recommend the challenge. Failing to finish one is not fun but all to easy to have to face. Good Luck to you whatever you decide.

AcC8braman

55 posts

172 months

Friday 14th June 2013
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AcC8braman

55 posts

172 months

Friday 14th June 2013
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davecymru

36 posts

178 months

Friday 14th June 2013
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Peter, please read everything you can and then make your own mind up.

http://www.lamboreplica.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cg... is an excellent place to start.
Then:
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/forumdisplay...
and
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/forum.php?s=a35c...

If you want to start from scratch then as others have said, talk to Dave at DC.
If you want a part-built then keep an eye on e-bay, and as others mentioned there are always the "usual suspects" popping up smile

The "big ticket" items i'd say to look for are:
Wheels
Interior trim
Electric wing mirrors
Anything OEM

I researched and researched for years before i took the plunge and even then only after building a simpler kit first and learning a load of the necessary skills.

But......

If you want it bad enough,
have enough time,
enough patience,
enough space
and enough money smile

then it is VERY worth it!

Dave


Fastpedeller

4,147 posts

167 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Steffan said:
I would respectfully suggest you consider building a product such as the MEV EXOCET or similar thought through one donor project.

This could be on the road and drivable WITHOUT IVA in six months. With a Countach it could take years. Literally.

I have no connection with MEV I just think a one donor non IVA kit car is a hell of a lot easier to build. You could be driving one of these for years before the Countach.

But either way I wish you well and good luck.
Whilst I agree with most of your statement, surely there is a 'typo', as the exocet has a new spaceframe and requires IVA.