£6k budget....what car?
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Hi,
New here but seems like a good place to find some info...
Im looking for a 'toy', something i can keep in the garage and just use over summer.
I have been looking at the 'caterfield' type cars for a while but not sure what to go for.
I used to own a VX220 as a daily driver but unfortunately last winter that came to an abrupt end, since then i have moved onto a volvo c30 but am missing the 'fun' i used to have over summer.
So i have a budget of around £6k so suggestions please, i would also consider another VX as they can be picked up at around the same price but running costs might be higher?
I do like the look of this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DAX-RUSH-PINTO-2L-1999-B...
Anyone owned both? how do these types of cars compare?
What are they running costs of the 'caterfield' type cars?
Sorry for the numerous questions!
Cheers
New here but seems like a good place to find some info...
Im looking for a 'toy', something i can keep in the garage and just use over summer.
I have been looking at the 'caterfield' type cars for a while but not sure what to go for.
I used to own a VX220 as a daily driver but unfortunately last winter that came to an abrupt end, since then i have moved onto a volvo c30 but am missing the 'fun' i used to have over summer.
So i have a budget of around £6k so suggestions please, i would also consider another VX as they can be picked up at around the same price but running costs might be higher?
I do like the look of this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DAX-RUSH-PINTO-2L-1999-B...
Anyone owned both? how do these types of cars compare?
What are they running costs of the 'caterfield' type cars?
Sorry for the numerous questions!
Cheers
Hi mate if this car will be a 2nd car then a seven type car is a great choice! I have a MK Indy and have a lot of fun blatting about in the summer the carry out mods in the winter,insurance costs me under £100 a year (31 yrs old 3k limit) and not many cars will give you more smile for your £.
A £6000 budget will get you a nice example,the dax looks nice but I would prob try and get one with a more modern engine unless your handy with the tools,mine had a 2.1l pinto in and went like a train just a bit crude and and I'm currently carrying out a zetec conversion
A £6000 budget will get you a nice example,the dax looks nice but I would prob try and get one with a more modern engine unless your handy with the tools,mine had a 2.1l pinto in and went like a train just a bit crude and and I'm currently carrying out a zetec conversion
totally depends on what your after,bike engine good for trackdays ect but for general road blatting might get a bit tiring thats why i prefer car engine,check out locostbuilders website for everything kitcar related and advice,as for car engine zetec,duratec,vauxhall redtop ect are all very good engines
AT 6Kyou're just about into zetec territory, a better bet than a ointo as is a bit more powerful/lighter. Running costs well as cheap or expensive as you wnat really....
insurance is gen less than £150 depending on age/location - mines unlimited miles at £150 for a mid 40's clean license.
i dont do spannering either, so it gets an annual service part of which i do myself ( oil etc ).....
if you have carbs they may need a tweak at a tuning place every year or so...not vast sums.
2.0 on carbs will prob be 20-22 mpg as a rough guide to fairly spirited driving, on track less. Injection on a zetec will be late 20/s up to 30mpg.
aside from being heaps of fun you'll find depreciation minimal if maintained well, your ongoing outlay probably being lmited to small upgrades/personalising the car.
If you're in teh right part of the country you should find owners clubs or generic kit car clubs for meets and drive outs.
never been in a vx, but a pal has a standard s1 elise and on track or road its notcieable how mcuh later you can brake in teh kit abd how much faster round teh bnends they are......
insurance is gen less than £150 depending on age/location - mines unlimited miles at £150 for a mid 40's clean license.
i dont do spannering either, so it gets an annual service part of which i do myself ( oil etc ).....
if you have carbs they may need a tweak at a tuning place every year or so...not vast sums.
2.0 on carbs will prob be 20-22 mpg as a rough guide to fairly spirited driving, on track less. Injection on a zetec will be late 20/s up to 30mpg.
aside from being heaps of fun you'll find depreciation minimal if maintained well, your ongoing outlay probably being lmited to small upgrades/personalising the car.
If you're in teh right part of the country you should find owners clubs or generic kit car clubs for meets and drive outs.
never been in a vx, but a pal has a standard s1 elise and on track or road its notcieable how mcuh later you can brake in teh kit abd how much faster round teh bnends they are......
Edited by greengreenwood7 on Thursday 17th November 17:58
Many thanks for the info, gives me a better idea. I wouldn't use it on track so it would just be road use, I'm not overly fussed on it being super powerful as id imagine a car this light wouldn't need much to make it go!
I'm based in north Wales, not much happens in these parts usually but will keep an eye out.
I'm based in north Wales, not much happens in these parts usually but will keep an eye out.
Wales.....perfect i'd think for a nice nimble kit! If you get one give me a shout, a group of 17-20 of us are passing Nth to Mid Wales early next way on the 4th day of our road trip......worth popping across to Chester Sports Cars, give them a shout and see if they have anything that you can have a blast in, used to be northern agents for Tiger and are very well respected in those circles for building and helping build some really good examples.
Just my own personal opinion here but that car in the original post - don't like the down draught through the bonnet or the other louvres either. In the first pic I thought the roll bar had been thrown in the back but apparently its fitted.
Can I suggest a brighter colour, its a little car and black may not be the most visible car.
If you are more used to a VX then it will be a big change going to a 7esque car.
Don't get me wrong they are great I have had a Lotus and a Caterham but they are raw compared to the luxury of a full bodied, soft suspension car.
Can I suggest a brighter colour, its a little car and black may not be the most visible car.
If you are more used to a VX then it will be a big change going to a 7esque car.
Don't get me wrong they are great I have had a Lotus and a Caterham but they are raw compared to the luxury of a full bodied, soft suspension car.
i woud say, they are "normal" priced....i´m watching the seven, especialy the sylva market since years and those prices come up relatively often, on the other side it needs to be said that some other seven brands are mostly overpriced.
not to forget: its end of season, also the winter is arriving sales can be only finalized over the price.
the problem with sylva-values (imo) is the design: the typicical seven-buyer wants the typical seven-design. something "unusual", even it performs better is reflected in a lower price. i even get the impression that RobinHood prices have rised and already reached the sylva level, although a RH is absolutley cr*p compared to a sylva.
anyway...you can see what a budget of 6k could buy and there could even be some money left!!!
if you use the full 6k you should easily buy a seven with a modern spec (e.g. zetec engine, irs rear, max. 2-3 years old, low mileage)...but you need to search and wait, view some cars, compare the built quality and spec in every little detail and even its advertized for 9k, dont be afraid to discuss about the price. some sellers (mainly dealers) tend to set the price far too high.
not to forget: its end of season, also the winter is arriving sales can be only finalized over the price.
the problem with sylva-values (imo) is the design: the typicical seven-buyer wants the typical seven-design. something "unusual", even it performs better is reflected in a lower price. i even get the impression that RobinHood prices have rised and already reached the sylva level, although a RH is absolutley cr*p compared to a sylva.
anyway...you can see what a budget of 6k could buy and there could even be some money left!!!
if you use the full 6k you should easily buy a seven with a modern spec (e.g. zetec engine, irs rear, max. 2-3 years old, low mileage)...but you need to search and wait, view some cars, compare the built quality and spec in every little detail and even its advertized for 9k, dont be afraid to discuss about the price. some sellers (mainly dealers) tend to set the price far too high.
Comadis said:
i woud say, they are "normal" priced....i´m watching the seven, especialy the sylva market since years and those prices come up relatively often, on the other side it needs to be said that some other seven brands are mostly overpriced.
not to forget: its end of season, also the winter is arriving sales can be only finalized over the price.
the problem with sylva-values (imo) is the design: the typicical seven-buyer wants the typical seven-design. something "unusual", even it performs better is reflected in a lower price. i even get the impression that RobinHood prices have rised and already reached the sylva level, although a RH is absolutley cr*p compared to a sylva.
anyway...you can see what a budget of 6k could buy and there could even be some money left!!!
if you use the full 6k you should easily buy a seven with a modern spec (e.g. zetec engine, irs rear, max. 2-3 years old, low mileage)...but you need to search and wait, view some cars, compare the built quality and spec in every little detail and even its advertized for 9k, dont be afraid to discuss about the price. some sellers (mainly dealers) tend to set the price far too high.
You are at it again if they are so crap how come there are so many on the road as compared with Strykers etc. RH has a big following and a very active owners assoc .Ok if you stated that your comments were stricly your veiw the comments would be more acceptable regards from a happy RH owner not to forget: its end of season, also the winter is arriving sales can be only finalized over the price.
the problem with sylva-values (imo) is the design: the typicical seven-buyer wants the typical seven-design. something "unusual", even it performs better is reflected in a lower price. i even get the impression that RobinHood prices have rised and already reached the sylva level, although a RH is absolutley cr*p compared to a sylva.
anyway...you can see what a budget of 6k could buy and there could even be some money left!!!
if you use the full 6k you should easily buy a seven with a modern spec (e.g. zetec engine, irs rear, max. 2-3 years old, low mileage)...but you need to search and wait, view some cars, compare the built quality and spec in every little detail and even its advertized for 9k, dont be afraid to discuss about the price. some sellers (mainly dealers) tend to set the price far too high.
one eyed mick said:
RH has a big following and a very active owners assoc.
So do theseI think the explanation is twofold:
a) They're regarded as a cheap option.
b) There's a prospective purchaser born every minute.
one eyed mick said:
You are at it again if they are so crap how come there are so many on the road as compared with Strykers etc. RH has a big following and a very active owners assoc .Ok if you stated that your comments were stricly your veiw the comments would be more acceptable regards from a happy RH owner
Mick, its all about horses for courses, i built a cortina based RH and the kit was cr*p but fantastically good value (all I could afford) and before I crashed it I loved it, with the insurance money (bigger budget)I replaced it with a striker and that was brilliant and showed just how different the RH was, the striker got me into track days and sprints and a few hills which the RH would never have done because IMO it was too big, too heavy and hence too slow, but had I wanted a predominantly road based 7 lookalike that had plenty of cockpit room and was very comfortable to drive then maybe just maybe I would have built another RH.Buying or building a kit is big undertaking and there are no rules to what people should or shouldn't buy, we all have an idea of what we want and what we don't want which is our opinion, these threads that ask 'What car for £6k' are always going to prompt some form of willy waving and there have been a few just recently.
The OP has not helped because he just states he wants a toy, however looking at what he has had in the past suggests that he would be wanting something nimble in the handling stakes which is something that the RH cannot claim it is best in class at.
The OP might be 6'7" tall and 20 stone which means he probably wont fit in a striker/narrow body westie etc.
So in essence what I am rambling about is we need the OP to give us a better idea of what he wants his toy for and to not rise to the my car is better than yours playground arguments.
thescamper said:
one eyed mick said:
You are at it again if they are so crap how come there are so many on the road as compared with Strykers etc. RH has a big following and a very active owners assoc .Ok if you stated that your comments were stricly your veiw the comments would be more acceptable regards from a happy RH owner
Mick, its all about horses for courses, i built a cortina based RH and the kit was cr*p but fantastically good value (all I could afford) and before I crashed it I loved it, with the insurance money (bigger budget)I replaced it with a striker and that was brilliant and showed just how different the RH was, the striker got me into track days and sprints and a few hills which the RH would never have done because IMO it was too big, too heavy and hence too slow, but had I wanted a predominantly road based 7 lookalike that had plenty of cockpit room and was very comfortable to drive then maybe just maybe I would have built another RH.Buying or building a kit is big undertaking and there are no rules to what people should or shouldn't buy, we all have an idea of what we want and what we don't want which is our opinion, these threads that ask 'What car for £6k' are always going to prompt some form of willy waving and there have been a few just recently.
The OP has not helped because he just states he wants a toy, however looking at what he has had in the past suggests that he would be wanting something nimble in the handling stakes which is something that the RH cannot claim it is best in class at.
The OP might be 6'7" tall and 20 stone which means he probably wont fit in a striker/narrow body westie etc.
So in essence what I am rambling about is we need the OP to give us a better idea of what he wants his toy for and to not rise to the my car is better than yours playground arguments.
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