ZONDA INSPIRED BUILD
Discussion
So first of all i'd like to say hi to all the gearheads that just can't leave well enough alone and take it upon them selves to improve on designs!.
I am starting a build sort of out of nessesity. This will be my personal car and also the engineering test mule for a chassis we are engineering in my shop. you'll notice that it is a Zonda cinque and many pureist will scream "WWHHYYYYY".. well the simple answer is that it happens to have the closest benchmark dimensions between the chassis we are engineering and any supercar out there. Here are some pics of the start, I will keep you all posted with more pics and content as the engineering progresses.
Cheers
I am starting a build sort of out of nessesity. This will be my personal car and also the engineering test mule for a chassis we are engineering in my shop. you'll notice that it is a Zonda cinque and many pureist will scream "WWHHYYYYY".. well the simple answer is that it happens to have the closest benchmark dimensions between the chassis we are engineering and any supercar out there. Here are some pics of the start, I will keep you all posted with more pics and content as the engineering progresses.
Cheers
brada said:
here's a few pics of the chassis engineering.. I will post a new revision more detailed in a couple of days. They will ne bolting to a full carbon monocoque.
Do you not think all this impressive design and engineering warrants a bespoke body? Otherwise it will be forever labelled as a zonda replica and it deserves more than that.
Please design your own body. Zonda are perfectly within their rights to sue you and you are perfectly capable of styling your own body or holding a competion (like factory 5 with their 888) to style one. Also the car will always be a replica of someone elses design, it will never be yours.
Before you go any further think about those subframes. You appear to have loads fed into unbraced positions, many areas not triangulated and have missed the oportunity to turn the structures into torsion boxes to assist the chassis.
You could possibly save money by fabricating wishbones as opposed to CNCing them. Though I suspect customers will like the CNC more!
Now is the time to change, if you go any further it will be too late.
Before you go any further think about those subframes. You appear to have loads fed into unbraced positions, many areas not triangulated and have missed the oportunity to turn the structures into torsion boxes to assist the chassis.
You could possibly save money by fabricating wishbones as opposed to CNCing them. Though I suspect customers will like the CNC more!
Now is the time to change, if you go any further it will be too late.
cymtriks said:
Please design your own body. Zonda are perfectly within their rights to sue you and you are perfectly capable of styling your own body or holding a competion (like factory 5 with their 888) to style one. Also the car will always be a replica of someone elses design, it will never be yours.
hat about getting someone like this http://pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&f... to design you something for free/cheap.
He says he's looking for a job, and I'm sure this would help his portfolio...
Totally agreed with legal commentary above and it won't go like a zonda unless you get a power plant and the interior like an original. Any let's face it the interior would cost as much as come kit cars. Make an inspired car 2 seater mid engined. The cost of making a carbon monocoque will put out of most end customer price range?
The problem with CAD thesedays is that just about anyone can "design" something. In this case, that someone unfortunately hasn't the first clue about structures and load carrying.
Please go write out the following 200 times as way of punishment:
"I will NOT put bending loading into the middle of tubes"..................... ;-)
Also, how have you designed your suspension dynamics and kinematics? A quick persusal of the CAD screen dumps suggests the wishbone dimensions to be abnormal? (lots of camber gain)
Please go write out the following 200 times as way of punishment:
"I will NOT put bending loading into the middle of tubes"..................... ;-)
Also, how have you designed your suspension dynamics and kinematics? A quick persusal of the CAD screen dumps suggests the wishbone dimensions to be abnormal? (lots of camber gain)
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 12th January 16:45
Max_Torque said:
The problem with CAD thesedays is that just about anyone can "design" something. In this case, that someone unfortunately hasn't the first clue about structures and load carrying.
Please go write out the following 200 times as way of punishment:
"I will NOT put bending loading into the middle of tubes"..................... ;-)
Also, how have you designed your suspension dynamics and kinematics? A quick persusal of the CAD screen dumps suggests the wishbone dimensions to be abnormal? (lots of camber gain)
Actually, the problem with CAD thesedays is that just about everyone "thinks" they can "design" something. Please go write out the following 200 times as way of punishment:
"I will NOT put bending loading into the middle of tubes"..................... ;-)
Also, how have you designed your suspension dynamics and kinematics? A quick persusal of the CAD screen dumps suggests the wishbone dimensions to be abnormal? (lots of camber gain)
Edited by Max_Torque on Saturday 12th January 16:45
It's bit like giving my wife a D4 with all "three kings" and expect her to somehow become a pro photographer at the same time.
CAD is simply a tool to present and refine a properly designed object, which has to be designed by talented and well trained/experienced designer first.
Automotive design is probably the most special design within the industrial design industry. Put it simply, it would be very difficult for normal product designer to get involved in any kind of real automotive design. Never mind graphic, interior...
CAE is another matter all together...
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