MSVA Light Quadricycles build?
Discussion
Can anyone enlighten me with regards to the rules and regulations with regards building and registering a home build vehicle?
I'd like to build something small and light, probably a bike engine with single seat. I think I'm looking at Light Quadricycle class via the Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval Scheme?
No idea what spec I can build (solid rear axle or rear diff, single brake or each wheel braking, CC and power outputs etc etc).
Could I modify a quad bike frame to suit? Could I use an old kart frame and modify and register that?
Can of worms I know but I'd just like to know that is (and isn't) possible.
Edit:
I've got some reading to do http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MSVA%202010%...
I'd like to build something small and light, probably a bike engine with single seat. I think I'm looking at Light Quadricycle class via the Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval Scheme?
No idea what spec I can build (solid rear axle or rear diff, single brake or each wheel braking, CC and power outputs etc etc).
Could I modify a quad bike frame to suit? Could I use an old kart frame and modify and register that?
Can of worms I know but I'd just like to know that is (and isn't) possible.
Edit:
I've got some reading to do http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MSVA%202010%...
Edited by Flipatron on Sunday 12th May 14:26
This link may give you more info.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/motorcycle-sin...
At the bottom of the page is a link to the MSVA manual. Despite the link you have being dated 2010 it looks to be current. The car IVA manual gets changed almost every month.
Steve
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/motorcycle-sin...
At the bottom of the page is a link to the MSVA manual. Despite the link you have being dated 2010 it looks to be current. The car IVA manual gets changed almost every month.
Steve
Light quadricycles (L6e) are defined by Framework Directive 2002/24/EC as: motor vehicles with four wheels whose unladen mass is not more than 350 kg, not including the mass of the batteries in case of electric vehicles, whose maximum design speed is not more than 45 km/h, and:
1.whose engine cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm3 for spark (positive) ignition engines, or
2.whose maximum net power output does not exceed 4 kW in the case of other (e.g. diesel fuelled) internal combustion engines, or
3.whose maximum continuous rated power does not exceed 4 kW in the case of an electric motor.
Quadricycles (L7e), also referred to as Heavy quadricycles, are defined by Framework Directive 2002/24/EC as motor vehicles with four wheels "other than those referred to (as light quadricycles), whose unladen mass is not more than 400 kg (category L7e) (550 kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including the mass of batteries in the case of electric vehicles, with a design payload not more than 200 kg (passenger) or 1000 kg (goods), and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15 kW.
I'm building a trike out of a 125cc Yamaha Breeze quad with CVT and reverse gear. The rear axle will be original but drive flanges turned around so the wheels (trailer items) are no more than 460mm apart "centre to centre". The brakes will have to be linked and operated by foot - plan is to use a Vespa brake pedal assembly. While handlebar operated brakes are allowed for quads three wheelers, other than motorbike type single front wheel, have to be linked / foot. My quad is 1996 so with a dating certificate and 100% original frame etc then no MSVA required. Road tax band will be £16 pa. A Porsche Boxster has donated it's roll bar to be narrowed as I don't want to be trapped if it flips during testing. I've also got a waterproof buggy type seat and full harness as well as a new lowback waterproof tractor seat - have't yet decided what to use.
I use to have a 2 year old / '56 reg road legal quad. Horrible to ride on tarmac due to no diff so can't recommend solid rear axle.
Chinese quads and buggies are tempting due to low price but it's a case of getting what you paid. I bought quite a few in the past as parts donors for a project and the quality of frame, suspension, steering etc was poor. Engines were acceptable though.
Paul h
1.whose engine cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm3 for spark (positive) ignition engines, or
2.whose maximum net power output does not exceed 4 kW in the case of other (e.g. diesel fuelled) internal combustion engines, or
3.whose maximum continuous rated power does not exceed 4 kW in the case of an electric motor.
Quadricycles (L7e), also referred to as Heavy quadricycles, are defined by Framework Directive 2002/24/EC as motor vehicles with four wheels "other than those referred to (as light quadricycles), whose unladen mass is not more than 400 kg (category L7e) (550 kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including the mass of batteries in the case of electric vehicles, with a design payload not more than 200 kg (passenger) or 1000 kg (goods), and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15 kW.
I'm building a trike out of a 125cc Yamaha Breeze quad with CVT and reverse gear. The rear axle will be original but drive flanges turned around so the wheels (trailer items) are no more than 460mm apart "centre to centre". The brakes will have to be linked and operated by foot - plan is to use a Vespa brake pedal assembly. While handlebar operated brakes are allowed for quads three wheelers, other than motorbike type single front wheel, have to be linked / foot. My quad is 1996 so with a dating certificate and 100% original frame etc then no MSVA required. Road tax band will be £16 pa. A Porsche Boxster has donated it's roll bar to be narrowed as I don't want to be trapped if it flips during testing. I've also got a waterproof buggy type seat and full harness as well as a new lowback waterproof tractor seat - have't yet decided what to use.
I use to have a 2 year old / '56 reg road legal quad. Horrible to ride on tarmac due to no diff so can't recommend solid rear axle.
Chinese quads and buggies are tempting due to low price but it's a case of getting what you paid. I bought quite a few in the past as parts donors for a project and the quality of frame, suspension, steering etc was poor. Engines were acceptable though.
Paul h
Edited by Compo_Simmonite on Monday 13th May 00:42
Edited by Compo_Simmonite on Monday 13th May 00:45
Compo_Simmonite said:
Light quadricycles (L6e) are defined by Framework Directive 2002/24/EC as: motor vehicles with four wheels whose unladen mass is not more than 350 kg, not including the mass of the batteries in case of electric vehicles, whose maximum design speed is not more than 45 km/h, and:
1.whose engine cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm3 for spark (positive) ignition engines, or
2.whose maximum net power output does not exceed 4 kW in the case of other (e.g. diesel fuelled) internal combustion engines, or
3.whose maximum continuous rated power does not exceed 4 kW in the case of an electric motor.
Quadricycles (L7e), also referred to as Heavy quadricycles, are defined by Framework Directive 2002/24/EC as motor vehicles with four wheels "other than those referred to (as light quadricycles), whose unladen mass is not more than 400 kg (category L7e) (550 kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including the mass of batteries in the case of electric vehicles, with a design payload not more than 200 kg (passenger) or 1000 kg (goods), and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15 kW.
I'm building a trike out of a 125cc Yamaha Breeze quad with CVT and reverse gear. The rear axle will be original but drive flanges turned around so the wheels (trailer items) are no more than 460mm apart "centre to centre". The brakes will have to be linked and operated by foot - plan is to use a Vespa brake pedal assembly. While handlebar operated brakes are allowed for quads three wheelers, other than motorbike type single front wheel, have to be linked / foot. My quad is 1996 so with a dating certificate and 100% original frame etc then no MSVA required. Road tax band will be £16 pa. A Porsche Boxster has donated it's roll bar to be narrowed as I don't want to be trapped if it flips during testing. I've also got a waterproof buggy type seat and full harness as well as a new lowback waterproof tractor seat - have't yet decided what to use.
I use to have a 2 year old / '56 reg road legal quad. Horrible to ride on tarmac due to no diff so can't recommend solid rear axle.
Chinese quads and buggies are tempting due to low price but it's a case of getting what you paid. I bought quite a few in the past as parts donors for a project and the quality of frame, suspension, steering etc was poor. Engines were acceptable though.
Paul h
Thanks Paul,1.whose engine cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm3 for spark (positive) ignition engines, or
2.whose maximum net power output does not exceed 4 kW in the case of other (e.g. diesel fuelled) internal combustion engines, or
3.whose maximum continuous rated power does not exceed 4 kW in the case of an electric motor.
Quadricycles (L7e), also referred to as Heavy quadricycles, are defined by Framework Directive 2002/24/EC as motor vehicles with four wheels "other than those referred to (as light quadricycles), whose unladen mass is not more than 400 kg (category L7e) (550 kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including the mass of batteries in the case of electric vehicles, with a design payload not more than 200 kg (passenger) or 1000 kg (goods), and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15 kW.
I'm building a trike out of a 125cc Yamaha Breeze quad with CVT and reverse gear. The rear axle will be original but drive flanges turned around so the wheels (trailer items) are no more than 460mm apart "centre to centre". The brakes will have to be linked and operated by foot - plan is to use a Vespa brake pedal assembly. While handlebar operated brakes are allowed for quads three wheelers, other than motorbike type single front wheel, have to be linked / foot. My quad is 1996 so with a dating certificate and 100% original frame etc then no MSVA required. Road tax band will be £16 pa. A Porsche Boxster has donated it's roll bar to be narrowed as I don't want to be trapped if it flips during testing. I've also got a waterproof buggy type seat and full harness as well as a new lowback waterproof tractor seat - have't yet decided what to use.
I use to have a 2 year old / '56 reg road legal quad. Horrible to ride on tarmac due to no diff so can't recommend solid rear axle.
Chinese quads and buggies are tempting due to low price but it's a case of getting what you paid. I bought quite a few in the past as parts donors for a project and the quality of frame, suspension, steering etc was poor. Engines were acceptable though.
Paul h
Would be interested to see what you're up to with your project, any pics?
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