No Receipts - What Now?
Discussion
I have little or nowt in the way of receipts for the major items of my kit (engine, gearbox, axle etc.) as most of it has been picked up over the years from various breakers. Mostly a local one where you remove the part yourself and hand over cash..
Where do I stand in applying for a VIN number & IVA? Someone mentioned a Police inspection and/or provision of signed build photographs? Anyone else been in this position? Am I battling a lost cause?
Where do I stand in applying for a VIN number & IVA? Someone mentioned a Police inspection and/or provision of signed build photographs? Anyone else been in this position? Am I battling a lost cause?
You don't need reciepts for a VIN - in fact you can make one up yourself (though it might be easier to get one allocated by the DVLA). Variious threads on locostbuilders about it.
You also don't need them for IVA. What you need to do is prove to their satisfaction that you've built the car yourself - I think the aim is to prevent people who build them for a living claiming "amateur built" status. For mine I sent about 5 receipts (one for the kit, the rest were for odd bits like the exhaust and stuff - I didn't have any for the engine or donor parts) and a half dozen photos (on a cd) of the major stages of the build. (Engine comming out of donor, a couple of me in the garage, bare chassis and a few pics of the build up).
Might be worth an email or call to VOSA - they've been pretty helpful whenever I've got in touch with them.
You also don't need them for IVA. What you need to do is prove to their satisfaction that you've built the car yourself - I think the aim is to prevent people who build them for a living claiming "amateur built" status. For mine I sent about 5 receipts (one for the kit, the rest were for odd bits like the exhaust and stuff - I didn't have any for the engine or donor parts) and a half dozen photos (on a cd) of the major stages of the build. (Engine comming out of donor, a couple of me in the garage, bare chassis and a few pics of the build up).
Might be worth an email or call to VOSA - they've been pretty helpful whenever I've got in touch with them.
gtmdriver said:
Do you have any photos of you building the car in your garage, on your drive or whatever.
All you need to show is that it really is an amateur build.
This is pretty much what I say to builders. The man at VOSA wants to be convinced it is an amateur build so don't send him a close-up picture of a Brembo caliper. Send him pictures of the car on your drive with dogs, cats, wheelie bins, kids sitting in a bare chassis holding a steering wheel etc.All you need to show is that it really is an amateur build.
It is DVLA who will want receipts as they will need convincing the parts you used are not stolen.
Steve
Steve_D said:
This is pretty much what I say to builders. The man at VOSA wants to be convinced it is an amateur build so don't send him a close-up picture of a Brembo caliper. Send him pictures of the car on your drive with dogs, cats, wheelie bins, kids sitting in a bare chassis holding a steering wheel etc.
It is DVLA who will want receipts as they will need convincing the parts you used are not stolen.
Steve
So if I make up a VIN myself, I don't need to worry about the receipts issue?It is DVLA who will want receipts as they will need convincing the parts you used are not stolen.
Steve
Going by my old SVA knwoledge and things read recently - The VIN can be any number either provided by the manufacturer or by yourself that fits the defined criteria (16 alpha numeric charaters I think), the recipts are used by the DVLA for -
1) Proof of purchase of the donor parts to make sure thay are not hookie
2) Tie the parts to the donor if you are going after an age related plate
3) Proof that the parts are all new or refurbished for registration as a new reg (within refurb rules)
and 4) which is slightly out of the thread theme, proof of purchase of parts and cost in the even of an insurance claim.
I guess if you have no reciepts they will assume that they are all old and from various cars and therefore issue a Q plate, the only way around this is to prove the parts can be/were fitted to a donor car for which you have a log book.
This probably only states what has already been said and is from my own knowledge and will need checking with the DVLA/VOSA before you proceed.
1) Proof of purchase of the donor parts to make sure thay are not hookie
2) Tie the parts to the donor if you are going after an age related plate
3) Proof that the parts are all new or refurbished for registration as a new reg (within refurb rules)
and 4) which is slightly out of the thread theme, proof of purchase of parts and cost in the even of an insurance claim.
I guess if you have no reciepts they will assume that they are all old and from various cars and therefore issue a Q plate, the only way around this is to prove the parts can be/were fitted to a donor car for which you have a log book.
This probably only states what has already been said and is from my own knowledge and will need checking with the DVLA/VOSA before you proceed.
ugg10 said:
Going by my old SVA knwoledge and things read recently - The VIN can be any number either provided by the manufacturer or by yourself that fits the defined criteria (16 alpha numeric charaters I think), the recipts are used by the DVLA for -
1) Proof of purchase of the donor parts to make sure thay are not hookie
2) Tie the parts to the donor if you are going after an age related plate
3) Proof that the parts are all new or refurbished for registration as a new reg (within refurb rules)
and 4) which is slightly out of the thread theme, proof of purchase of parts and cost in the even of an insurance claim.
I guess if you have no reciepts they will assume that they are all old and from various cars and therefore issue a Q plate, the only way around this is to prove the parts can be/were fitted to a donor car for which you have a log book.
This probably only states what has already been said and is from my own knowledge and will need checking with the DVLA/VOSA before you proceed.
I'm not particular about whether they issue a Q plate or not, I just want to get it road legal. Cheers guys. 1) Proof of purchase of the donor parts to make sure thay are not hookie
2) Tie the parts to the donor if you are going after an age related plate
3) Proof that the parts are all new or refurbished for registration as a new reg (within refurb rules)
and 4) which is slightly out of the thread theme, proof of purchase of parts and cost in the even of an insurance claim.
I guess if you have no reciepts they will assume that they are all old and from various cars and therefore issue a Q plate, the only way around this is to prove the parts can be/were fitted to a donor car for which you have a log book.
This probably only states what has already been said and is from my own knowledge and will need checking with the DVLA/VOSA before you proceed.
Stevenbobs said:
Steve_D said:
This is pretty much what I say to builders. The man at VOSA wants to be convinced it is an amateur build so don't send him a close-up picture of a Brembo caliper. Send him pictures of the car on your drive with dogs, cats, wheelie bins, kids sitting in a bare chassis holding a steering wheel etc.
It is DVLA who will want receipts as they will need convincing the parts you used are not stolen.
Steve
So if I make up a VIN myself, I don't need to worry about the receipts issue?It is DVLA who will want receipts as they will need convincing the parts you used are not stolen.
Steve
You still need to be concerned about the receipts. You do not need them for IVA but will need them for registration. Without them you will have some serious talking/pleeding to get through.
Steve
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