What do you think of this kit car?
What do you think of this kit car?
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boomerkk

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619 posts

249 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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How about this for an idea (I've been daydreaming on a nice Sunday):

1. Factory Five Racing GTM (with strengtened chassis, you know, triangles and extra welds)
2. 650rwhp tuned N/A LS7 without Nitrous (is it possible? I don't know)
3. Sequential reinforced Porsche G50 tranny
4. Good suspension and brake system

What do you think? Comments much appreciated.

Ferg

15,242 posts

280 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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boomerkk said:
1. Factory Five Racing GTM (with strengtened chassis, you know, triangles and extra welds)

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Ferg said:

boomerkk said:
1. Factory Five Racing GTM (with strengtened chassis, you know, triangles and extra welds)

Based on mention of LS1 and G50 transaxle, I'd guess GTR (Ultima)? Welding in extra triangulation to a monocoque GTM tub would be interesting.

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

John_S4x4

1,364 posts

280 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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I like the looks of the GTM, except for the huge fron t overhang.....but I supose they had to go for the sleek, long look. Nice choice of engine, should be plenty fast enough

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Podie said:
Ahem.. www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/GTM/GTMkit.html
Ahhh, not a real GTM then.

Paul Drawmer

5,117 posts

290 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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Hmmm - great faith in the design & construction then. Already assuming it will need extra triangulation and different suspension & brakes!

Found the specs eventually. Not surprised to see the weight isn't mentioned. Still, if you throw enough horsepower at it, I guess it isn't an issue.

Looks w i d e, that'll stop anyone passing you!

Not a real GTM though.

>> Edited by Paul Drawmer on Tuesday 12th July 06:41

NAPiston

105 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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Paul Drawmer said:

Found the specs eventually. Not surprised to see the weight isn't mentioned. Still, if you throw enough horsepower at it, I guess it isn't an issue.

Looks w i d e, that'll stop anyone passing you!

Weight is the first number listed on the specs page:
www.factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/GTM/gtmspecs.html
It's listed at 2150lbs, or 977kg, just under the quoted weight for the Ultima GTR of 990kg. A US spec 911 Turbo comes in at 1630kg.

Width is quoted at 74 inches for the FFR GTM, as compared to 72.8 for the Ultima GTR and 72.1 for a 911 Turbo

NAPiston

105 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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boomerkk said:
How about this for an idea (I've been daydreaming on a nice Sunday):

1. Factory Five Racing GTM (with strengtened chassis, you know, triangles and extra welds)
2. 650rwhp tuned N/A LS7 without Nitrous (is it possible? I don't know)
3. Sequential reinforced Porsche G50 tranny
4. Good suspension and brake system

What do you think? Comments much appreciated.

I think it's jumping the gun to talk about needing to upgrade the chassis/suspension/brakes as the car hasn't been released yet and I think is still being fine tuned in development? I'm not an engineer but the chassis looks reasonably well laid out?



disclamer: This pic is from one of the earlier versions and I don't know if it has been updated since then.

boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

249 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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hehe thanks for the comments.

I mentioned hypothetically upgrading the chassis, suspension and brakes due to the hypothetically extremely high output engine.

I've spoken to Mike Pisani at FFR (he's the engineer there), he can guarantee the chassis will take 500-550hp. Rather confident it can take more but he says needs time to really be sure.

The GTM is a really good deal at USD20k.

This is what I was thinking about a hypothetical engine
www.moreperformanceinc.com/ls6_427_race.php

pretty sure it'll be a straight bolt on to the GTM

NAPiston

105 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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boomerkk said:

This is what I was thinking about a hypothetical engine
www.moreperformanceinc.com/ls6_427_race.php

pretty sure it'll be a straight bolt on to the GTM

Keep in mind that that is a 'race' engine designed for drag racing, as opposed to a 'street' engine. I would guess that it will not idle very well below 2000-3000 rpms. I'm sure that they can build you something more suitable though, at a cost of some hp or $$. According to some of the magazine articles they have links to it sounds like a great company; really dedicated to the smallest detail in getting the ultimate in performance and reliablity out their engines.

boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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NAPiston said:


Keep in mind that that is a 'race' engine designed for drag racing, as opposed to a 'street' engine. I would guess that it will not idle very well below 2000-3000 rpms. I'm sure that they can build you something more suitable though, at a cost of some hp or $$. According to some of the magazine articles they have links to it sounds like a great company; really dedicated to the smallest detail in getting the ultimate in performance and reliablity out their engines.


true, but according to the GMHTP mag review of the engine build, it has reasonable drivability and some people may tolerate it for street use.

More Performance also has 427ci built for 'street' use, costing around $22500 and making about 550+hp.

i'm looking for something more extreme tho., and 725hp in a 2200lbs car sounds just right - for around $60-70k too!