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stevieyid

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24 posts

242 months

Monday 6th February 2006
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Hi im on the lookout for a kit car. Really i want something that is fantastic on the b roads and has good 0-60 times. Im looking at the Tiger super 6's what can people tell me about them? Cheers

Antony Moxey

10,320 posts

243 months

Monday 6th February 2006
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I have a Six. I reckon 0-60 is somewhere in the fives (2ltr Zetec, twin Weber 45s), it corners alright, makes the right noise and, even if I do say so meself, looks fantastic. As far a Seven goes it's quite heavy - 640ish kg - but then the chassis does look fairly indestructible. If you're looking to build one then if you've got basic spannering skills you'll be fine (I'd never built a car before and the only real difficulties I had were with the lectrix), otherwise expect to pay anything from around £6.5k and up for reasonable examples. HTH.

Oh, there's a fairly vibrant owners' club too, including various regional ones.

StreetDragster

1,569 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Dax's sound like they meet your requirements too. The majority of them have the higher performance engines (V8's, Cosworth Turbo's Etc) although there are some with Pintos, NA zetec etc in.
Costs tend to be slightly higher than the competition of Tigers/Westfields/MK Indys etc but not as high at Caterhams.

Look amazing though, i prefer the 'dragster' type look of the Dax's with the wide back wheels, lots of shiny bits, square headlights etc, thats why i bought mine over the competition.

Performance wise they are very good 0-60 generally, and B-road blasts are great fun, TBH i don't think you'll find a car of this type of design that doesn't handle B-roads well. The low centre of gravity and RWD certainly help the drivers feel of the road

Thanks

Matt

busa_rush

6,930 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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Look for anything small and bike engine powered, anything like this will be very quick at low speeds.

red october

110 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th February 2006
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with higher revs!

are the bike engined lot any good at everyday speeds or are they more trackday orientated ?


agree with matey back there, of all the 7 clones the westfield gets my vote
(after my own Ginetta G27 that is of course!)

busa_rush

6,930 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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red october said:
are the bike engined lot any good at everyday speeds or are they more trackday orientated ?


Oh yes, you've probably heard the "no torque" bullshit that gets trotted out occasionally . . . ignore it and blag a ride or drive in a car, there is no problem with torque or with normal driving. If you want a car to cruise along with your mates in the back and a thumping sub bass then forget them, you said you wanted B road fun and fast acceleration.

The only problem you'll have is managing to keep under the speed limit as the bike engines are addictive, you'll want more and more Have a chat with somebody like The Kit Car Workshop, they usually have a car they can take you for a ride in.

A number of people have said that a Hayabusa powered Westfield is similar in performance to a 230-240bhp car engined Westfield, with the exception of the handling which is usually better in the bike engined car due to less weight.

Edited to add that most BEC's (bike engined cars) will do 0-60mph in 3.5 to 4.5 seconds depending on engine and tyre choice.

>> Edited by busa_rush on Wednesday 8th February 13:16

dern

14,055 posts

303 months

Wednesday 8th February 2006
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I have a 300ishbhp westfield v8 and am building a bec locost. I started building the bec after being taken out in a blade engined fury and the ability to get around b-road even with 2 people in it is amazing and has a real race car feel. I bought the v8 after starting the bec because it was available at a good price and it is utterly amazing. I will end up using the v8 mainly for the road as it's so amazing at overtaking and easy to drive at speed and the bec for the track because it'll be lighter, feel more like a race car and also the bec engine will cost me a grand to replace whereas the v8 will cost be an absolute fortune to replace to the same spec. Also had a 1700 xflow westfield which was good, felt more like the v8 than the bec (haven't driven a bec mind) but with a lot less power. All are superb though.

Mark

robcollingridge

633 posts

307 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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You want a BEC. I'm building a Fury R1 myself. Plenty of background and detail on my web site: www.robcollingridge.com/kitcar

Rob