Which Car??
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benadams

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106 posts

242 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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Hi,

I have finally been able to get my hands on a garage in the village where i live which means i can now look at purchasing my first Kit Car.

I have had a look at a few of the manufactuers and i like the look of the cars which "Tiger" produce as well as "Raw".

I want to buy a second hand car which has already been built due to my lack of mechanical knowledge. I have approx £6000 - £7000 to spend. Other than the kits i mentioned above are there anymore i should consider.

Also i am only 24 years old. I have a company car so i havent been able to build up my no claims - any idea of what cost this will be on say 5000 miles a year?

Thanks.

Ben

Jubal

930 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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Only because I've got one and am biased but at that budget you can also look at an MK Indy. They are cheap s/h. Some haggling and 6k will buy you a practically brand new car with your choice of car or bike engine, Pinto or Fireblade at that price.

Insurance is dead cheap, I pay 230 quid for 5k miles.

d-man

1,019 posts

269 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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I'd go for the Striker over any of the Tiger offerings (but then I would say that!), certainly its a better car than the Cat or Avon, closer run thing with the R6 or B6 though. Buying second hand the standard of the build is probably at least as important as the car itself though

You might find insurance companies that'll take your company car driving into account, certainly a lot of them will ask about NCB on other cars or even 'years of claim free driving'.

Antony Moxey

10,321 posts

243 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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You won't go far wrong with a Tiger - says I as a Six owner - and for your money a Six/Cat/Supercat/Avon shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility. Plus there's a very healthy national owners club and forum as well as plenty of regional ones too.

gefopsman

260 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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I would try a post on www.locostbuilders.co.uk for info on kitcars. If you are looking for a seven type car then the Slva and Raw chassis was about the bst but I hear that MNR are taking that crown now.

Depends on what you wnat but as stated previosuly, build quality is important so look at a few before committing.

Bike engined cars - Very quick/ Very nimble but not the best for regular use

Car engines cars - Still quick/ Still nimble not as extreme though but more every day friendly.

westyman

100 posts

267 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Have a look at Westfields - £6-7K could get you a very nice car with plenty of scope for upgrades as funds/experience build up. You will also get a good Tiger 6, MK Indy or striker for the same money. As has previously been stated, the quality of the build is just as important (maybe more so) as the manufacturer.

benadams

Original Poster:

106 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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i have just had a quote for £370 a year for a tiger super 6 with a 2.0 zetec engine.

benadams

Original Poster:

106 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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how about if i changed the parameters and said i only had £4000 to spend. Could i still get something decent?

d-man

1,019 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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At this time of year I'd say so, at a guess you're probably looking at an 8v engined car then - pinto or crossflow most likely. Still be great fun though and nothing to stop you doing an engine swap later if you want to

benadams

Original Poster:

106 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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just been having a look round and it seems that i am limited to either a robinhood or a locost car.

d-man

1,019 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Theres a Striker on Findit for 4k and a Westy there for 4.5k Locosts can be fine, completely dependent on the person building them though and some of the Locost derived kits are pretty good - MK Indy and MNR Vortx for example. Complete cars sometimes come up for sale on the Locostbuilders website too. I'd avoid Robin Hood though, bit heavy for a Seven before you even get into any of the other arguments about them

benadams

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106 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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ooohh - what else is wrong with robinhoods

Wacky Racer

40,697 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Just sold a very nice Tiger Supersix to a fellow Ph'er for similar money, with 3000 miles from new and insurance around £150 fully comp. (Pic still on my profile)

Also consider Supercat, or Westfield, but buy on condition whatever you choose rather than age because most are low mileage anyway.....

Good luck...

benadams

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106 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Looks a lovely car - shame i wasnt a bit quicker really!

RushV8

99 posts

263 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Hi Ben,

I'd recommend a 4 cylinder Dax Rush (becuase I built a Rush V8 and love it) but at £4K you'll not find one unless part built or crash damaged.

As for whet else is wring with Robin Hoods : I thought about building one and then looked closer.... where can I begin.

Chassis tub is folded Stainless Steel (SS) : wont rust but faitugue strength of SS is not good, especially when cold or warm bent at 90 degree angles as are R.Hood tubs. I know they have had chsssis cracking / failing because I'm a metallurgist and asked the owner to be honest with me as I had calculated the risk, and he said we've had a few which have cracked over the years... that was enough for me.

Also rear diff link to th etub uses a steering joint knuckle to stop it tramping under the torque of drive take-up : these wear and fail and then you can damage prop shaft / diff .

Front suspension turret used looks awful, and isn't downrated to account for lighter weight of the Hood compared to donor car, and so front end is skittish on uneven roads (i.e. most A / B roads these days thanks to Blair and Darling taxing motorists so much but putting so little back into tarmac maintenance and more into "safety camera" - the gits !!).

So I would take the advice offered already , for 4K you ought to look at Strikers, Tiger Cups, older Westfields, Locost etc. All are fine cars, but GET A LOCAL CLUB MEMBER FOR THE SORT OF CAR YOU WANT TO BUY YO CHECK OUT THE CAR YOU OPT FOR BEFORE YOU BUY (they know the build quality you should look for and the problem areas / weak-spots to look for).

Good Luck

Mark.

benadams

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242 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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