westfield megabusa or duratec power
Discussion
Car power more "civil", but you really need to try both as they are chalk and cheese. My flag is purely in the bike camp as I have had one (blade), and am about to get an R1. The difference is EVERY bike engined car I have been in excited me, only one car engined "7 esque fury'ish car" ever floated my boat, and that was Ruari's 300bhp Cosworth Fury. Unless its got nigh on 200bhp car engined cars (for me) are not even in the same league as a BEC for thrills. If you are not into the noise and sequential shift, and cheap replacement engines (not that you will probobly need one) , go for the Duratec.
I had a mechanical reverse in mine, with no vibrations, and you could quite comfortably pootle around the shops and never go above 5,000 rpm. Drove it on the continent 5 times, including to the Swiss border. If the clutch is difficult then there is something wrong with it. Car engine a more wise choice I fear if you are NEVER going near a track, but if like me you see yourself driving round dressed as a 'biker with Helmet on getting soaked the (minimal)downsides of a bike engine pale into insignificance! Why not book a visit to the Westfield factory are test both???
We have both Duratec and Blade powered Toniq demonstrators available to try here should you fancy doing a back to back test.
I really enjoy the bike powered cars and the noise is sensational, however I would still plump for the Duratec for a predominantly road based car due to the tractability. We install the Duratecs in a variety of tunes from basic through to the Cosworth 260 lump and in my opinion the 220 is plenty quick enough for a road car. It really does fling itself down the road in a very impressive way and your license would be severely in danger every time you took it out. Big silly sideways smiles at every opportunity!
However, the new Kawasaki 1400 motor may just change all of that! It does mean that we are going to have to build one at some point in the future and with the amount of work we have on at the moment it will be a while away, still it is nice to have these things to look forward to!
Please feel free to give us a call on 01637 889351 just to talk cars and engines in general if it may help.
Neil.
I really enjoy the bike powered cars and the noise is sensational, however I would still plump for the Duratec for a predominantly road based car due to the tractability. We install the Duratecs in a variety of tunes from basic through to the Cosworth 260 lump and in my opinion the 220 is plenty quick enough for a road car. It really does fling itself down the road in a very impressive way and your license would be severely in danger every time you took it out. Big silly sideways smiles at every opportunity!
However, the new Kawasaki 1400 motor may just change all of that! It does mean that we are going to have to build one at some point in the future and with the amount of work we have on at the moment it will be a while away, still it is nice to have these things to look forward to!
Please feel free to give us a call on 01637 889351 just to talk cars and engines in general if it may help.
Neil.
The Kawasaki 1400 produces (straight out of the box with no fiddling) approx 197bhp (200ps) and 115lb/ft. Max power at 9500rpm and torque at 7500rpm.
See here http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/product.asp?Id=3400D5561... for full spec.
In a lightweight 7 it will fly, and once the tuning specialists have done their thing it will be a normally aspirated bike engine with well over 200bhp and probably in excess of 120lb/ft (although the standard engine should be plenty enough for most people!).
Still well down on a well prepared car engines torque but should be enough to make for a perfectly tractable road engine as well as producing the fireworks up at the top end.
We intend to put one into a Toniq chassis but it will be a few months away as we are currently flat out with Murtaya and Duratec Toniq builds, but it will come. We plan to offer it alongside the current CBR powered Toniq range, albeit at a higher price due to the list price of the motor being a fair bit higher than the Honda lump.
However, until this engine conversion is done and my theory on this new Kwaka motor is proven I still stand by my original posting on this topic, currently I would go for a Duratec engine over the current bike lumps if I were building a 7 as a road car.
Neil.
See here http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/product.asp?Id=3400D5561... for full spec.
In a lightweight 7 it will fly, and once the tuning specialists have done their thing it will be a normally aspirated bike engine with well over 200bhp and probably in excess of 120lb/ft (although the standard engine should be plenty enough for most people!).
Still well down on a well prepared car engines torque but should be enough to make for a perfectly tractable road engine as well as producing the fireworks up at the top end.
We intend to put one into a Toniq chassis but it will be a few months away as we are currently flat out with Murtaya and Duratec Toniq builds, but it will come. We plan to offer it alongside the current CBR powered Toniq range, albeit at a higher price due to the list price of the motor being a fair bit higher than the Honda lump.
However, until this engine conversion is done and my theory on this new Kwaka motor is proven I still stand by my original posting on this topic, currently I would go for a Duratec engine over the current bike lumps if I were building a 7 as a road car.
Neil.
Big Man67 said:
some great info there Neil thanks.going to have a look for a westfield after my holidays.
the duratec powered car sounds the best for road use.
would there be much difference in throttle bodies compared to conventional side draught carbs..
Doubt you would get a new build through SVA on Carbs - Duratecs have only been made since around 2000 and NEW BUILD kit car with an engine made after july 95 will need to meet the latest strict emissions - hence Injetcion and a CAT.the duratec powered car sounds the best for road use.
would there be much difference in throttle bodies compared to conventional side draught carbs..
people do however convert pre 95 registered cars to Post 95 engines i.e. Duratec and use carbs as the car will still only need to meet the older emission restrictions.
Would be good idea to get to a local Westfield club (WSCC) meeting and talk to some owners for all sorts of tips & advice on a cars spec - as well as the factory sales team - where you based
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