what denotes a kit car?
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i heared that if you put the ferrari 355 body kit on a toyota MR2 its insurance then changes to a kit car!
but if you just add a body kit bonnit rear fin change the insides and mod the engine its still classed as an MR2? i dont understand the difference other that making it look like a car its not. but that does not even seem right as i love the k1 attack but thats a kit car and look like nothing else!
please can some one help?
but if you just add a body kit bonnit rear fin change the insides and mod the engine its still classed as an MR2? i dont understand the difference other that making it look like a car its not. but that does not even seem right as i love the k1 attack but thats a kit car and look like nothing else!
please can some one help?
The Attack could never be considered anything but a kit car because that's exactly what it is, with a purpose made chassis and donor components. Not all kit cars are replicas.
I see your point with the MR2 debate though. I suppose the difference between a modified MR2 and a Ferrari replica is that the former would still be generally recognised as a Toyota, whereas the latter is something quite different (if only to look at). It's also more of an involved 'build' than just changing, say, the bonnet and sills on an MR2.
Bit of a vague answer, that. It's definitely a grey area.
I see your point with the MR2 debate though. I suppose the difference between a modified MR2 and a Ferrari replica is that the former would still be generally recognised as a Toyota, whereas the latter is something quite different (if only to look at). It's also more of an involved 'build' than just changing, say, the bonnet and sills on an MR2.
Bit of a vague answer, that. It's definitely a grey area.
Edited by AdamW on Friday 10th August 10:27
but shorly some of the kitted cars that apear in some of the car shows are not always easy to spot what they are! but as i say i have an MR2 i would like to customize.
i also have a 3000GT that i wanna change to carbon bonit boot wings and doors. i know this wont get into the kit car ins.
but wanna run both cars but ins for the import MR2 is silly money but if its can get classed as a kit car i would be happy. (dont wanna have it looking like a ferrari no offence ment in this but were it can look like one it will never sound or go like one.. so what is the point?) lol
i also have a 3000GT that i wanna change to carbon bonit boot wings and doors. i know this wont get into the kit car ins.
but wanna run both cars but ins for the import MR2 is silly money but if its can get classed as a kit car i would be happy. (dont wanna have it looking like a ferrari no offence ment in this but were it can look like one it will never sound or go like one.. so what is the point?) lol
I was thinking about this the other day, I have a Veranti that is basically the same idea as the Ferrari replicas but its not a replica. Its basically had all the body panels changed, and the roof chopped off. The log book says its still an MR2 because of the lack of change to the chassis, it didn't have to be SVA'd, but yet I insure the car as a Veranti, which saved me £1200 on insurance than if I'd have insured it as a modified MR2. Another thing also is that you can modify the engine on your car as a Kit Car and it doesn't really make any differnce.
Have you tried insuring it as a kit car even though its an MR2, and just say its a ferrari replica, but without the badges, and without the usual kit? Not sure what would happen in this case?
Have you tried insuring it as a kit car even though its an MR2, and just say its a ferrari replica, but without the badges, and without the usual kit? Not sure what would happen in this case?
DVLA said:
Kit Cars
Where all the parts of a vehicle are supplied new by the manufacturer...
Kit Conversions
This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle or old parts are added to a kit comprising a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell. The general appearance of the vehicle will change and result in a revised description on the registration certificate...
Where all the parts of a vehicle are supplied new by the manufacturer...
Kit Conversions
This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle or old parts are added to a kit comprising a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell. The general appearance of the vehicle will change and result in a revised description on the registration certificate...
DVLA says....
The vehicle must score eight or more points to retain the original registration mark. If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis or altered monocoque bodyshell is used, an enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA), single vehicle approval (SVA) or motorcycle single vehicle approval (MSVA) certificate will be required to register the vehicle. A 'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.
The following values will be allocated to the major components used:
chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
suspension = 2 points
axles = 2 points
transmission = 2 points
steering assembly = 2 points
engine = 1 point
Where there is evidence that two vehicles have been welded together to form one (ie 'cut and shut') a 'Q' mark will be allocated. ESVA, SVA or MSVA will be required.
The vehicle must score eight or more points to retain the original registration mark. If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or modified chassis or altered monocoque bodyshell is used, an enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA), single vehicle approval (SVA) or motorcycle single vehicle approval (MSVA) certificate will be required to register the vehicle. A 'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.
The following values will be allocated to the major components used:
chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
suspension = 2 points
axles = 2 points
transmission = 2 points
steering assembly = 2 points
engine = 1 point
Where there is evidence that two vehicles have been welded together to form one (ie 'cut and shut') a 'Q' mark will be allocated. ESVA, SVA or MSVA will be required.
in your case you are not modifying the chassis or using a manufacturers chassis
I dont know if the rules have changed but when i had my Spartan, which was basically a rebodied Triumph herald it retained the original chassis so kept the original plate but was classed as a kitcar.
try this link it may help
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/artspartan....
I dont know if the rules have changed but when i had my Spartan, which was basically a rebodied Triumph herald it retained the original chassis so kept the original plate but was classed as a kitcar.
try this link it may help
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/artspartan....
As long as your modified car still has the original chassis it will always remain the same model (MR2 for example) on the V5. If you make major changes to the chassis or drivechain then you enter the grey area of the kit car and I am fairly sure you will be required to get it through the SVA test and you really don't want to go there - believe me.
If you want to make a unique car then you can either rebody an existing model (but not a replica please
) but why not go a little further and build one of the many wonderful designs available out there? The Murtaya looks fairly straightforward to build, using one donor and has very lively performance with all wheel drive. It also doesn't look like a kit car. You could even check out my car - it started out as a kit but ended up as something else!
If you want to make a unique car then you can either rebody an existing model (but not a replica please
) but why not go a little further and build one of the many wonderful designs available out there? The Murtaya looks fairly straightforward to build, using one donor and has very lively performance with all wheel drive. It also doesn't look like a kit car. You could even check out my car - it started out as a kit but ended up as something else!Gassing Station | Kit Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff