......it continues
Discussion
dodaman said:
I see that we have two show on the same weekend September 13-14 next year we have Donington run by Peter Filby and Stafford run by Den Tanner.
Bonkers.I'm waiting to see what the exhibitors make of it.
Won't be suprised if both shows get poor support from their own industry.
I received an email from Den earlier:
Can't really comment on any of the rest of his email. I do think that even if the 2 shows were a few weeks apart manufacturers would be torn between which one they would attend.
Roll on Exeter - can rely on that being a good, well turned out show.
kitcarman said:
As to Donington: all the reports, on all the forums and from all the manufacturers, were to the effect that it was terrible and certainly not profitable for anybody – in short: that Donington was dead. On that basis I took my opportunity to book my show (from which I cannot be barred) on the only weekend in September that the Stafford Bingley Hall was available. If Donington thinks it isn’t dead, and if it decides to go-head on that same weekend, bearing in mind that its date regularly changes to accommodate the racing calendar, then it’s the proprietor’s prerogative.
We’ll have to wait and see what actually happens ‘in the event’. I dare say that I’ll stand accused of causing trouble again but, as ever, all I’m striving for is a level playing field.
Den Tanner B.Sc.
MD of Kitcars Intl. Ltd. Publishers of Kit Car and Cobra Magazines.
Yep, Den is still barred from the Donington show.We’ll have to wait and see what actually happens ‘in the event’. I dare say that I’ll stand accused of causing trouble again but, as ever, all I’m striving for is a level playing field.
Den Tanner B.Sc.
MD of Kitcars Intl. Ltd. Publishers of Kit Car and Cobra Magazines.
Can't really comment on any of the rest of his email. I do think that even if the 2 shows were a few weeks apart manufacturers would be torn between which one they would attend.
Roll on Exeter - can rely on that being a good, well turned out show.
Oh great, more crap the industry could do without.
Considering that Stafford is traditionally March while Donington is long established in September this does look sadly like a deliberate move by Den Tanner.
Edited to say, just noticed Black5's post after I posted mine. Yes, Donington got slated this year, but I think most of the problems stemmed from a double booking that wasn't Filby's fault.
Did anyone out there really think the show was 'dead'? Or did you expect the organisers to ensure it improved (i.e. no double booking, infield kit car parking and track access) for 2008?
Considering that Stafford is traditionally March while Donington is long established in September this does look sadly like a deliberate move by Den Tanner.
Edited to say, just noticed Black5's post after I posted mine. Yes, Donington got slated this year, but I think most of the problems stemmed from a double booking that wasn't Filby's fault.
Did anyone out there really think the show was 'dead'? Or did you expect the organisers to ensure it improved (i.e. no double booking, infield kit car parking and track access) for 2008?
Edited by grahambell on Monday 29th October 15:24
grahambell said:
Considering that Stafford is traditionally March while Donington is long established in September this does look sadly like a deliberate move by Den Tanner.
Er...Wasn't it October 16th last year (or was that the year before)??
I know which I'll go to. Donington has got steadily worse year after year, but this year due to outside influences I went for the day not the weekend and it was actually quite a good day with enough to see for just the one day. Besides...Stafford is considerably further than Donington.
Donnington was pants this year. Wanted to grab my usual back of mixed stainless nuts&bolts - and there was only one seller there(Wrights) who didn't have what i wanted. And yes, it has been getting steadily worse.
Never been to stafford and I'm not likely to try it unless i hear good feedback.
Never been to stafford and I'm not likely to try it unless i hear good feedback.
Ferg said:
grahambell said:
Considering that Stafford is traditionally March while Donington is long established in September this does look sadly like a deliberate move by Den Tanner.
Er...Wasn't it October 16th last year (or was that the year before)??
However, having shows so close together - both date wise and geographically - isn't likely to result in optimum attendance for either.
Can only see this ending in tears for Den. Stafford show has always being very badly attended. If Limelight get track use next year then I can't see any major manufacturers going to Stafford instead. The industry needs two major shows which in all likelihood will continue to be Donnington & Stoneleigh. Smaller shows such as Stafford have a part to play but pitching it against donnington is fooolhardy in my oppinion.
grahambell said:
However, having shows so close together - both date wise and geographically - isn't likely to result in optimum attendance for either.
Went to the Stafford show two years ago - and was disappointed. Have been going to Donington religiously until this year (work pressures meant I couldn't make it) and it has been going downhill.
Having two shows arranged like they now are is just going to put more nails in the coffins of both of them.
I have been to most of the Stafford shows over the last ten years or so, the last couple have been disappointing, but a lot depends on the weather...
I do think the actual venue and halls are excellent though....
Only been to Donington once about six years ago, which was excellent and really busy....
Bloke with fireblade engined Westfield blew his engine up on the track....
I do think the actual venue and halls are excellent though....
Only been to Donington once about six years ago, which was excellent and really busy....
Bloke with fireblade engined Westfield blew his engine up on the track....
Meeja said:
Having two shows arranged like they now are is just going to put more nails in the coffins of both of them.
Ridiculous, this happened in the games industry a couple of years ago. A long established show losing some shine in Earls Court with a bright new shiney competitor in that isolated aircraft hanger in the docklands called Excel.Earls Court was a ghost town the other was well attended but still 'lacking' both suffered and now the UK, a major developer of games, no longer has a show and all down to the bloody-mindedness of the 'rival' organisers.
Surely a joint show would be the way forward? Or at least talk to each other and agree different dates.
Edited by V8 GRF on Thursday 29th November 11:09
Well have to say that Donnington has been getting worse over the years and this year was the end for me, poor everything, parking, manufacturers attendance etc, will not be attending next year. Never been to Stafford but haven't heard any good reports either, so can't comment.
I think my attendance for next year will be, the Kent Show, always seems a good turn out but is a bit dependent on the weather as it's early in the year, then the big one at Stoneleigh, plus all the little car shows and runs out that go on with the PH crowd in the summer.
I think my attendance for next year will be, the Kent Show, always seems a good turn out but is a bit dependent on the weather as it's early in the year, then the big one at Stoneleigh, plus all the little car shows and runs out that go on with the PH crowd in the summer.
Meeja said:
V8 GRF said:
Surely a joint show would be the way forward? Or at least talk to each other and agree different dates.
With the individuals involved, that is unlikely to happen.Gassing Station | Kit Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff