BEC & CEC Shoot out Santa Pod 2008

[jazz1]

BEC & CEC Shoot out Santa Pod 2008

Date: 31st August (TBC)

A fun day out at Santa Pod, late summer. A bit of a competition to find out who has the fast BEC or CEC over 1/4 strip. Trophies and prizes for the winners.
All kit cars welcome.
More details nearer the time.

[Chris71]

Got to be something with a mahoosive V8 and nothing else surely? I know there are a couple of cobra replicas converted to pretty serious street cars. They're still technically kits...

[jazz1]

I have to disagree with you, big heavy lump like that! Theres a lot of bike engines out there now would hammer a V8 over 1/4 mile, blades, R1's, Busa, some with nitrous and turbos etc but we'll see on the day!

[Chris71]

Really? I know a standard road going cobra would dissapear in the mirrors of a lightweight BEC, but there are some people running 8 litre chevy engines with forced induction and auto boxes. I don't expect they go round corners very well any more, but I know of atleast one cobra replica which is a regular on drag strips and I thought most bike engined cars were more intended as circuit racers.

[Furyblade_Lee]

I will have some of that if not on holiday. Curious what my R1 car would do, I would imagine a low 13? Pretty sure a good BEC will not get much below 12.9ish without some sort of Nitrous or Turbo, and I have seen some CEC kits do low 12's at a run-what-ya-brung day. So I think the CEC's will have the edge, especially as you cannot just dial up big revs and dump the clutch without a big flywheel.

as long as round 2 of the experiment is a flying lap around Cadwell park....... ;-)

[jazz1]

Yep you are completely right they are a circuit car. There will be lots of track days that we will be going to this year, this is just a bit of fun for the BEC and CEC owners, something a bit different just to see how our cars perform on a 1/4 mile stip and a chance to meet up.

Edited by jazz1 on Wednesday 9th January 15:04

[jazz1]

Great stuff mate, hope you can make it. Be interested to see how the R1 does on the day, I'm running a fireblade myself and I am hoping to upgrade to the R1 at the end of the season.

[jazz1]

Heres some results from 1/4 mile strip in York awhile ago that were posted on another forum, just out of interest:

Cecs

1st place Paul 12.123 300+bhp nissan sx200
2nd place Chris 12.138 s2000
3rd place Mark 12.457 300+bhp nissan 200sx
4th place Mookaloid 14.14 tuned Pinto
5th place Jacko 14.675 tuned Pinto
6th place Paul H 14.740 2000 Zetec
7th place Dean 14.803 1600 toyota
8th place Tim Windmill 15.260

Becs

1st place Carnut 11.727 blackbird/nos/slicks
2nd place Steve Hellfire 12.523 zx12r
3rd place Danny Mk 12.9** gsxr1000 k2
4th place Keith Hellfire 13.023 zx12r
5th place Wadders 13.128 zx9r
6th place Mandbsheldon 13.274 Fazer 1000cc
7th place Phil Hellfire 13.3
8th place Graeme L 13.280 954 Blade
9th place Gingerprice 13.522 893 Blade
10th place Mk Blade 13.555 893 Blade
11th place Paul Fisher 13.557 R1 2003
12th place Andy W 14.131 zx9r
13th place Block 14.494 893 Blade

[Sam_68]

jazz1 said:

Heres some results from 1/4 mile strip in York a while ago that were posted on another forum...

Interesting... my 1.8 litre, nat asp CEC has run 12.626 at Santa Pod (admittedly with a lighter driver than me ), which would have put it 4th out of the CEC's and 3rd out of the BEC's on that list. Maybe it's worth investing in some stickier rubber and some more suitable cogs and lending it to my sylph like girlfriend?

Is it just turn-up-and-run, or to you have to register in advance?

What are the prizes?

[basherbarrichell]

jazz1 said:

I have to disagree with you, big heavy lump like that! Theres a lot of bike engines out there now would hammer a V8 over 1/4 mile, blades, R1's, Busa, some with nitrous and turbos etc but we'll see on the day!

sorry mate ill have to disagree with you on that, imo i think a v8 will blow a BEC into the weeds at santa pod but thats just what i think

[Sam_68]

basherbarrichell said:

jazz1 said:

BECs are faster...

CECs are faster...

What would be interesting would be a straight line sprint over a longer distance - say a couple of miles down an aerodrome.

I think that would prove how gearing-dependent BECs are as they bounce off their rev limiters shortly after the 1/4 mile point and watch the CEC's disappear into the distance.

[BECOC]

steves put up a post to invite people for a bit of fun why on forums does that have to be dissected into this or that or hhhhmmmmm interesting the discombobilation of the atmospheric pressure means that a v8 will blow the BEC off the road !!!WHO CARES!!!!!

its a bit of fun BEC's already run in the 12's so there not slow Im sure v8's arent either but is there something special I should know about as Ive never known one to leave me for dead

one things for sure on the day ill bring two cars an r1 car with Nitrous and a single seater ZX12r both road legal in road legal spec


well see what happens on the day..... and who turns up with these parachute brake assisted v8's

ta Chris
BEC Owners Club

[Happy Jim]

I'm up for a bit of fun, I'm going to use this year as the year to get my stats together - ie I've no idea what BHP/Torque/ 1/4 mile time my toy has...time to find out :-)

Sooo, that's one V8 then ;-)

Jim

[BECOC]

good one jim see you there

Im sure it wont hang around

ta chris

[basherbarrichelo]

BECOC said:

steves put up a post to invite people for a bit of fun why on forums does that have to be dissected into this or that or hhhhmmmmm interesting the discombobilation of the atmospheric pressure means that a v8 will blow the BEC off the road !!!WHO CARES!!!!!

its a bit of fun BEC's already run in the 12's so there not slow Im sure v8's arent either but is there something special I should know about as Ive never known one to leave me for dead

one things for sure on the day ill bring two cars an r1 car with Nitrous and a single seater ZX12r both road legal in road legal spec


well see what happens on the day..... and who turns up with these parachute brake assisted v8's

ta Chris
BEC Owners Club

im not argueing with you, but when you say 'you've never known a v8 to leave you for dead' i just want to say i know one that runs in the 9's factory spec

[Jon Ison]

basherbarrichelo said:

BECOC said:

steves put up a post to invite people for a bit of fun why on forums does that have to be dissected into this or that or hhhhmmmmm interesting the discombobilation of the atmospheric pressure means that a v8 will blow the BEC off the road !!!WHO CARES!!!!!

its a bit of fun BEC's already run in the 12's so there not slow Im sure v8's arent either but is there something special I should know about as Ive never known one to leave me for dead

one things for sure on the day ill bring two cars an r1 car with Nitrous and a single seater ZX12r both road legal in road legal spec


well see what happens on the day..... and who turns up with these parachute brake assisted v8's

ta Chris
BEC Owners Club

im not argueing with you, but when you say 'you've never known a v8 to leave you for dead' i just want to say i know one that runs in the 9's factory spec

Respect to any factory road legal V8 that runs 9's, look what the jap 6 cly boys need to do........


"Johnny topped the HKS Drag Series “Street” class with this car in 2007, and has run 9-second quarter mile passes at almost 150mph with it in fully street legal trim. The car uses the original 4WD system and 6 cylinder engine and produces around 1,000bhp."

thanks to the Santa Pod web site for the quote.

[Furyblade_Lee]

i have just made a BIG bowl of popcorn.......

[Jon Ison]

Furyblade_Lee said:

i have just made a BIG bowl of popcorn.......

[Busa_Rush]

Why do we tolerate the shit flung by posters who've been around for only a few months and have less than 12 posts ? Usually trolls and full of the worst shit. Waste of time, not even worth opening the popcorn for

[jazz1]

Sam_68 said:

jazz1 said:

Heres some results from 1/4 mile strip in York a while ago that were posted on another forum...

Interesting... my 1.8 litre, nat asp CEC has run 12.626 at Santa Pod (admittedly with a lighter driver than me ), which would have put it 4th out of the CEC's and 3rd out of the BEC's on that list. Maybe it's worth investing in some stickier rubber and some more suitable cogs and lending it to my sylph like girlfriend?

Is it just turn-up-and-run, or to you have to register in advance?

What are the prizes?

Very good times, you should be pleased with those, I would be. However the surface at Santa Pod is far better than that at Elvington.


Unless I hear otherwise from Santa Pod it will be part of a normal RWYB Day, which anyone can turn upto. However to enter the shoot out we would prefer registration with us in advance so we have an idea of what numbers to expect.

The prizes will be trophies for 1st. 2nd. 3rd places and also the following has kindly been donated by Chris at the BEC onwers Club for the BEC competitors

1st prize coloured silicone hose kit for their car
2nd 1 years bec owners club membership
3rd back panel organiser for their car


If anyone would like to sponsor the CEC's please let me know!