5k for a (bec) type 7
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my top line for this is 5k.lookin for summin like a mk indy or even the fury but has to have a bike engine.im trying to think of pros and cons for them if it was you witch one wud you go for if you had 5k.i eint got the time to build,does anyone know if their is one out ther for that price?
The BEC verses CEC issue has been discussed at some length on here alreay try the link below first.
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=510609&hw=+%2Bbec+%2Bmk+%2Bindy
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=510609&hw=+%2Bbec+%2Bmk+%2Bindy
I would say 6k is a safe budget but if somebody is desperate to sell then who knows? But be careful of what you are buying at that price, BEC's are seriously fast so make sure brakes ect are in good order and not just painted-up scrapyard parts. Someone willing to sell at that price may not have spent much more on it to start with. At 6k you may get a nice MK indy. Fury's at that price may well be ex-racers and not mint, also lots of them are not road registered and SVA'd. There was a green Phoenix R1 sold a couple of times for around £6k, but Phoenix's are quite rare. Bear in mind for not much more than £5k you could build yourself a BEC Sylva R1ot, Sean built, SVA'd and registered his ZX9 example I believe for £5,500. And it takes a very fast Caterham Superlight R to keep up with that I assure you! Happy hunting.
Furyblade_Lee said:
I would say 6k is a safe budget but if somebody is desperate to sell then who knows?
Plenty of cars offered for sale at around £6.5K and £6k ought to buy any one of them, unless their owners have very unrealistic negotiating techniques.But remember that advertised prices and actual selling prices are often very different things; if you organise the money first, there are quite a few people who would be unable to resist a wad of 500 tenners waved under their nose for an instant sale...
You're more likely to pick one up in late Autumn for £5k but maybe less so at this time of year. That said, you do occasionally see older converted kits (Striker etc) in need of a bit of tidying up coming up for that kind of money, but you may have to travel / wait for something like that to come along.
Jon, not a bad price certainly, although with that particular one I'd be a little concerned as to it's mechanical integrity and how well it had been looked after given that the owner says things like "the gearbox is from a fireblade I believe" having owned it for over 2 years! 
On a slightly more serious note Id also want to check out the "California" engine which generally means a restricted, lower power engine to meet California's emission limits.
On a slightly more serious note Id also want to check out the "California" engine which generally means a restricted, lower power engine to meet California's emission limits.
Edited by LocoBlade on Tuesday 22 April 23:15
ste380 said:
he also ads its a 919 then later on a 900??? i dont get it does anyone elce?
To be fair although they're actually 919cc, a lot of people refer to the engine as a "nine hundred" so I wouldnt read too much into that. I dont think it would be a 2000 year model though if it is 919cc, as the RRX was the last 919 engine, which was the 99 model year. In 2000 they went fuel injected with a slightly different 929cc engine.One other thing to bear in mind, and I'm not too sure how far it relates to the blade, but the newer R1s seem to get most of their gain in HP over earlier models due to the clever ram-air affect of the airbox. I can't see that you can replicate it exactly in a car and hence I've seen dyno figures of low 160+bhp on a '07 engine, i.e. almost identical to that of a dynojetted Yr2000 5JJ motor.
Im reading this topic with great interest as im also insterested in owning a bike engined seven, and also have a restricted budget as a (engineeing) student. Everyone I see goes on about how a bec instal is a cheap way to get high performance when building, yet the bec's seam to fetch more second hand. Or maybe the cec's that are at the cheaper end are simply non comperable to becs, and the more expensive car engined options?
The indy is also currently riding to the top of my list of cars too. Ive looked at various others, but proberbly know more about the indy than any others.
- If nothing else because they currently seam to be running monthly events at Bruntingthorpe for there owners (£80 open pit day), which is a great day out having been once to have a look, and only an hour away too.
- I guess the closest other car is the Tigar, which seams to be dominated with cec's rather than bec's and a stuggle slightly with the aethetics of the tigars bonnet/nose. The dax is expensive, the robinhoods have poor reputation and the later ones are little cheaper, and ditto prehaps factory fabricated locosts. (And im not sure about DIY chassis of unknown quality, its hard to measure a car for geometrical accuracy, or inspect a weld through 2mm of powercoat, or ateast im not sure im happy doing that myself?)
I have about £4k in savings across bank accounts, plus £1.2k intrest free overdraught with i keep for another three years and could make back in that time. And then theres borrowing from parents, and taking out a small loan in the middle of a global credit crunch.
Daniel
The indy is also currently riding to the top of my list of cars too. Ive looked at various others, but proberbly know more about the indy than any others.
- If nothing else because they currently seam to be running monthly events at Bruntingthorpe for there owners (£80 open pit day), which is a great day out having been once to have a look, and only an hour away too.
- I guess the closest other car is the Tigar, which seams to be dominated with cec's rather than bec's and a stuggle slightly with the aethetics of the tigars bonnet/nose. The dax is expensive, the robinhoods have poor reputation and the later ones are little cheaper, and ditto prehaps factory fabricated locosts. (And im not sure about DIY chassis of unknown quality, its hard to measure a car for geometrical accuracy, or inspect a weld through 2mm of powercoat, or ateast im not sure im happy doing that myself?)
I have about £4k in savings across bank accounts, plus £1.2k intrest free overdraught with i keep for another three years and could make back in that time. And then theres borrowing from parents, and taking out a small loan in the middle of a global credit crunch.
Daniel
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