Aeon GT3 - new concept
Discussion
Hi,
I've been working on a new concept design for the Aeon GT3 for the past few months (well, since December). A couple of people have already seen these, but I thought I'd spread them to a wider audience.
Enjoy!
There's some older stuff available at http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php .
I'll be starting a CNC milling machine in the next couple of weeks - one of its first jobs will be to make a model.
Only thing I should've done is move the headlamps up a bit.
I've been working on a new concept design for the Aeon GT3 for the past few months (well, since December). A couple of people have already seen these, but I thought I'd spread them to a wider audience.
Enjoy!
There's some older stuff available at http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php .
I'll be starting a CNC milling machine in the next couple of weeks - one of its first jobs will be to make a model.
Only thing I should've done is move the headlamps up a bit.
Edited by tribbles on Friday 20th June 08:54
Edited by tribbles on Friday 20th June 09:03
Big Improvement and glad to see its still alive, well done.
Couple of nerdy questions, are you still sticking with the 3 seat arangements and have you moved the rads to the back and if not were is the exit at the front for the air?
Love to see the pics and progress of the buck being made.
Andy
Couple of nerdy questions, are you still sticking with the 3 seat arangements and have you moved the rads to the back and if not were is the exit at the front for the air?
Love to see the pics and progress of the buck being made.
Andy
Sorry, but it's still got the "I don't know how to design doors" look of the original. I always felt it was an interesting, possibly good, car trapped in a crap body (a problem common in the kit car world).
P.S. The link doesn't work, try this"http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php instead.
Do you use a widescreen monitor? If you put a new line between the images you won't get a horizontal scroll bar, a feature of poor web design
P.S. The link doesn't work, try this"http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php instead.
Do you use a widescreen monitor? If you put a new line between the images you won't get a horizontal scroll bar, a feature of poor web design
Thanks ofr the comments so far!
Yes, it will be keeping the 3 seats - it can be converted to 2 seats (as can the normal Aeon GT3 - although it's then the GT2). And the radiators are in the back to give some practicality in a boot space in the front. ETA: There'll be 4 rads, one in each of the holes towards the rear.
I've fixed the link (it was late
), but what do you mean by the doors? What would you think as being "correctly designed doors"?
One thing I should've said is that this body will fit directly on the existing Aeon chassis without any modifications (I started with a model of the chassis which I used when deciding what colour to paint my car).
ETA2: I was hoping the spaces between the img sections would cause the images to flow to the next page on non-widescreen monitors, but it looks like this doesn't happen on PH; so I've modified it to break between them.
Yes, it will be keeping the 3 seats - it can be converted to 2 seats (as can the normal Aeon GT3 - although it's then the GT2). And the radiators are in the back to give some practicality in a boot space in the front. ETA: There'll be 4 rads, one in each of the holes towards the rear.
I've fixed the link (it was late
), but what do you mean by the doors? What would you think as being "correctly designed doors"?One thing I should've said is that this body will fit directly on the existing Aeon chassis without any modifications (I started with a model of the chassis which I used when deciding what colour to paint my car).
ETA2: I was hoping the spaces between the img sections would cause the images to flow to the next page on non-widescreen monitors, but it looks like this doesn't happen on PH; so I've modified it to break between them.
Edited by tribbles on Friday 20th June 09:02
Edited by tribbles on Friday 20th June 09:04
I think it's a good evolution of the original.
The original design always struck me as being an efficient way of covering the chassis rather than a styled car. Not that I am being critical, just it looked like a neat track biased car.
I would like to see a neater headlight solution. I really liked the way the BMW mini lights were intigrated into the old design. Perhaps another production car could donate it's headlights rather than the rather untidy aftermarket jobs in the rendering. Alternatively could they be of slightly different sizes and be staggered rather than on a horizontal plain? At the rear would Hella LED ring components be an option?
Otherwise I like it. Opening door glass would be a must as would some reasonable storage. Part of the reason I have a GTM Libra is that I can get luggage and gear in it for a weeks camping for 2 people (just). A must for trips to Le Mans etc.
Finally; 4 radiators? Sounds a bit complicated? I presume they would be bespoke and therefore expensive?
I look forward to seeing more. Keep up the good work.
P.S Last one I promise. How about some sort of vents near the bottom under the lights?
The original design always struck me as being an efficient way of covering the chassis rather than a styled car. Not that I am being critical, just it looked like a neat track biased car.
I would like to see a neater headlight solution. I really liked the way the BMW mini lights were intigrated into the old design. Perhaps another production car could donate it's headlights rather than the rather untidy aftermarket jobs in the rendering. Alternatively could they be of slightly different sizes and be staggered rather than on a horizontal plain? At the rear would Hella LED ring components be an option?
Otherwise I like it. Opening door glass would be a must as would some reasonable storage. Part of the reason I have a GTM Libra is that I can get luggage and gear in it for a weeks camping for 2 people (just). A must for trips to Le Mans etc.
Finally; 4 radiators? Sounds a bit complicated? I presume they would be bespoke and therefore expensive?
I look forward to seeing more. Keep up the good work.
P.S Last one I promise. How about some sort of vents near the bottom under the lights?
Edited by rdodger on Friday 20th June 11:13
Edited by rdodger on Friday 20th June 12:02
I rather like it - Much better than the original, no offense intended towards anyone there!
Like the others have mentioned, I have always been interested in the GT3, but the design of the bodywork has held me back from buying one, but this may just force me to have another look.
The 4 radiators does sound a little on the complicated/ expensive side? Could you not just have water on one side and oil on the other, if it has an oil cooler that is? Or just water on one side and a 'dummy' on the other to help carry heat out of the engine bay?
I must say, I thought the doors look ok but it does look like a tight squeeze with 3 people on board and the A pillars appear to obscure the view, then I realised the driver is in the middle so it's no real problem!
Keep the updates coming!
Dom
Like the others have mentioned, I have always been interested in the GT3, but the design of the bodywork has held me back from buying one, but this may just force me to have another look.
The 4 radiators does sound a little on the complicated/ expensive side? Could you not just have water on one side and oil on the other, if it has an oil cooler that is? Or just water on one side and a 'dummy' on the other to help carry heat out of the engine bay?
I must say, I thought the doors look ok but it does look like a tight squeeze with 3 people on board and the A pillars appear to obscure the view, then I realised the driver is in the middle so it's no real problem!
Keep the updates coming!
Dom
FlossyThePig said:
Sorry, but it's still got the "I don't know how to design doors" look of the original. I always felt it was an interesting, possibly good, car trapped in a crap body (a problem common in the kit car world).
P.S. The link doesn't work, try this"http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php instead.
Do you use a widescreen monitor? If you put a new line between the images you won't get a horizontal scroll bar, a feature of poor web design
what was the last car you had a go at designing a concept for?P.S. The link doesn't work, try this"http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php instead.
Do you use a widescreen monitor? If you put a new line between the images you won't get a horizontal scroll bar, a feature of poor web design
Lights - yes, using aftermarket lights is a bit of a cop-out. However, it's significantly easier to have something that is completely correct when the buck is made, rather than having to get lights, measure them very accurately, and have to model them. And then find it doesn't fit...
Rads - may only be 2, with 1 hole used for charge cooler rad, and the other for the engine intake - it all depends on surface area.
And at the moment, there are no plans to put this into production - it may end up being just a one-off (although it's been designed with production in mind).
Rads - may only be 2, with 1 hole used for charge cooler rad, and the other for the engine intake - it all depends on surface area.
And at the moment, there are no plans to put this into production - it may end up being just a one-off (although it's been designed with production in mind).
Bit the bullet and get the lights right.... I know 2 cars that have done this (Mike and Stulad) and they look better than any other kit lights I have seen.
I have spentabsolutelly ages trying to design something for mine and am still not happy let alone make the unit to the same quality.
Great news about the rads being at the back.... I have done the same with mine for exaactly the same reason. Shouldnt add any cost either.... didn't with mine as I was able to use more than 1 rad and make them thinner and thus both cheaper and more efficient.
I have spentabsolutelly ages trying to design something for mine and am still not happy let alone make the unit to the same quality.
Great news about the rads being at the back.... I have done the same with mine for exaactly the same reason. Shouldnt add any cost either.... didn't with mine as I was able to use more than 1 rad and make them thinner and thus both cheaper and more efficient.
tribbles said:
Hi,
I've been working on a new concept design for the Aeon GT3 for the past few months (well, since December). A couple of people have already seen these, but I thought I'd spread them to a wider audience.
Enjoy!
There's some older stuff available at http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php .
I'll be starting a CNC milling machine in the next couple of weeks - one of its first jobs will be to make a model.
Only thing I should've done is move the headlamps up a bit.
Hi Jason,I've been working on a new concept design for the Aeon GT3 for the past few months (well, since December). A couple of people have already seen these, but I thought I'd spread them to a wider audience.
Enjoy!
There's some older stuff available at http://aeon.tribbeck.com/newconcept/index-old.php .
I'll be starting a CNC milling machine in the next couple of weeks - one of its first jobs will be to make a model.
Only thing I should've done is move the headlamps up a bit.
Edited by tribbles on Friday 20th June 08:54
Edited by tribbles on Friday 20th June 09:03
I went trough the build on your website, and it was a very interesting build to see, and downloaded a few pictures of your car..
In reference to you new design, it looks really interesting, but I would try a few design detail changes,
Is the winscreen fixed ? I think the original screens should be placed forward, and this would give you more room to play with the interior, and lengthen your doors for an easier entrance.
I would still keep the radiator up front, and instead try ro find more room in the interior.
Do you mind if a scribble something for you an post it later ?
Cheers
Italo
Edited by fuoriserie on Friday 20th June 16:19
This was modelled in Lightwave 9.
The weight in the front should be about the same as what the Aeon currently has (loss of radiator would be compensated by the boot inner section). However, when tested at MIRA, there was no need for extra weight at the front - in fact, there's not enough weight at the back (hence most of them have a rear wing - mine's the only one that hasn't got one, but that's only because it's not painted yet).
Can the windscreen move? Well, in the world of modelling, yes it can. However, there's a strengthening loop on the GT3 that sits just behind it, and I don't want to modify the chassis in any way. It could be cut off, but there's not a lot of space behind it to move it. I've got a model of the chassis already rendered somewhere - ahh just found it:
It could probably move forward about 50mm, but not much more than that without adding additional riggers to it. Feel free to PM me - I've actually got some other renderings for you anyway...
Oh, and I missed this question "How about some sort of vents near the bottom under the lights?" - front or back (i.e. entry or exit)? I did some at the front in an earlier design - it complicates manufacture though (= more expensive).
The weight in the front should be about the same as what the Aeon currently has (loss of radiator would be compensated by the boot inner section). However, when tested at MIRA, there was no need for extra weight at the front - in fact, there's not enough weight at the back (hence most of them have a rear wing - mine's the only one that hasn't got one, but that's only because it's not painted yet).
Can the windscreen move? Well, in the world of modelling, yes it can. However, there's a strengthening loop on the GT3 that sits just behind it, and I don't want to modify the chassis in any way. It could be cut off, but there's not a lot of space behind it to move it. I've got a model of the chassis already rendered somewhere - ahh just found it:
It could probably move forward about 50mm, but not much more than that without adding additional riggers to it. Feel free to PM me - I've actually got some other renderings for you anyway...
Oh, and I missed this question "How about some sort of vents near the bottom under the lights?" - front or back (i.e. entry or exit)? I did some at the front in an earlier design - it complicates manufacture though (= more expensive).
Just for fun I played with Jason's 3D renderings, and with his permission i worked on a few very rough sketches, without altering the dimensions, and still using the same windscreen and position on the chassis.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Stratos Replica screen with the new designs though........
I wouldn't mind seeing a Stratos Replica screen with the new designs though........
Edited by fuoriserie on Friday 18th July 10:37
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