Alfa Twin Cam Engine for kit car?

[Erich Stahler]

Guys, have any of you experience of using this engine in any of your creations?


See other thread already running on engines forum for pics:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Comadis]

have seen a fisher fury, fitted with an alfa engine and gearbox. owner was very happy with it.

but i think the alfa-enigne is not so "common" in uk and easy to source as here in germany.

Edited by Comadis on Friday 15th August 00:13

[Furyblade_Lee]

That Fisher Fury with the Alfa? / Fiat? Twin-cam is owned by Mad Mac Allardyce. It is a Guy Croft engine and reputadly ran about 210bhp when new. Mac detuned it slightly to around 170 for the sake of reliability (it is expensive to replace). BUT I have known Mac since about 2002, just before i met him he blew it up at Folembray. It is now summer 2008 and it still is not running... Last seen in Fishers workshop being restored / refurbished / rebuilt. The car is affectionatly known as "The Ground Missile". Mac himself has not been on the scene for a while, i think he has not been too well, or I could have ask him a few questions for you.

Regarding the engine, a great engine but remember it is seriously old technology. To get power / tractability / economy to modern levels will cost MONEY!!

Edited by Furyblade_Lee on Friday 15th August 08:26

[thescamper]

Had a Guy Croft 2 Litre FIAT Twink in a Striker, was a fantastic little car. As Lee says it is old technology, but still a viable choice for a 7 if the spares are readily available.

[Chris71]

I had a Fiat Twincam in a Sylva Leader. Fantastic engine - very tractable, reasonable top end still and the noise was .

[Sam_68]

Let's be clear, here, guys... the classic Alfa Twin Cam is a completely different engine to the Fiat/Lancia Twin Cam.

The engines in later Twin Spark Alfas are an Alfa head on basically the Fiat/Lancia block, but the earlier Alfa Twin Cams (as shown in the OP's photos) are a completely Alfa design; apart from anything else, they have alloy block and chain driven cams, whereas the Fiat/Lancia Twin Cam is cast iron block and belt driven cams.

[thescamper]

Sam_68 said:

Let's be clear, here, guys... the classic Alfa Twin Cam is a completely different engine to the Fiat/Lancia Twin Cam.

The engines in later Twin Spark Alfas are an Alfa head on basically the Fiat/Lancia block, but the earlier Alfa Twin Cams (as shown in the OP's photos) are a completely Alfa design; apart from anything else, they have alloy block and chain driven cams, whereas the Fiat/Lancia Twin Cam is cast iron block and belt driven cams.

They are still very similar in design its just the Alfa one is much prettier.

[Comadis]

sorry. the fiat engine has nothing to do with the alfa engine.

the same as you would compare a VW with a BMW.

the fisher i´ve seen had a standard alfa engine fitted. i think it was a 1750cc.

[Sam_68]

thescamper said:

They are still very similar in design its just the Alfa one is much prettier.

They're both 8-valve Twin Cams of about the same capacity; that's all you can say for them. Different block design, different combustion chamber design, different camshaft drive. You might as well compare the Alfa with a Lotus-Ford Twin Cam... there are equal (arguably greater) similarities.

[Skyedriver]

Hullo.......coffee anyone (sorry)

[Comadis]

same opinion as Sam!!!