Discussion
If you wanted to chop the whole top off a car, say Fiesta or something,(Banham esq!!,) windscreen and all, and retain all the chassis and engine etc but with a new body, would you need the vehicle to go through an SVA. Bearing in mind it would no longer be a monocoque and you were to rebody it(with added strenghing of course),would it need an Sva or could you just run it on the original V5?
I'm having this dilemma from another aspect. I have a Quantum thats still on a Fiesta logbook. My thoughts are that because the major parts such as engine, rear beam etc are now in another chassis, then I do need to go through SVA. In which case, yours wouldnt
But no-one can give me a clear answer, there seems to be a way to update the V5 with the new vehicle details but I'm pretty much resigned to going through SVA in any case
But no-one can give me a clear answer, there seems to be a way to update the V5 with the new vehicle details but I'm pretty much resigned to going through SVA in any case
To avoid the need for an SVA test the original chassis must be unmodified. unfortunately the roof of a monocoque IS part of the chassis.
You can't even chop the back end off a Range Rover (The extra bit of chassis behind the suspension pick up points) to make one of those Bobcat type off roaders.
You can't even chop the back end off a Range Rover (The extra bit of chassis behind the suspension pick up points) to make one of those Bobcat type off roaders.
Edited by Dave Dax builder on Thursday 4th December 22:15
Yes, both of the above projects will need to have SVA.
As said if you modify the chassis or monocoque then SVA is required. DVLA told me even repositioning engine mounts would require it.
Don't forget to take plenty of photos during the build to demonstrate your amateur build status.
Steve
As said if you modify the chassis or monocoque then SVA is required. DVLA told me even repositioning engine mounts would require it.
Don't forget to take plenty of photos during the build to demonstrate your amateur build status.
Steve
Steve_D said:
Yes, both of the above projects will need to have SVA.
As said if you modify the chassis or monocoque then SVA is required. DVLA told me even repositioning engine mounts would require it.
Don't forget to take plenty of photos during the build to demonstrate your amateur build status.
Steve
That's interesting because, as ever with government departments, if you ask someone else then you get a different answer. I was talking to a friend who has made his VW Beetle into a mid-engine monster with a Volvo T5 unit. He had to cut off the rear horns from the chassis BUT because he kept the torsion tube and complete rear suspension it did not count as modifying the chassis and he did not require SVA. It really depends on who you ask, when you ask and, possibly, if they got any last night! :-)As said if you modify the chassis or monocoque then SVA is required. DVLA told me even repositioning engine mounts would require it.
Don't forget to take plenty of photos during the build to demonstrate your amateur build status.
Steve
For what it is worth a few years ago I had the great idea of bolting a series 2 Landrover body to a shortend Range Rover chassis. Only after cutting the thing in half and virtually finishing the basic build did I look up the SVA criteria. In a nutshell (and this is on the DVLA web site) if any part of a chassis or monocoque is altered or modified a full sva is required.
I bought the SVA book (still have it) and the whole thing is the worst nightmare. Suffice to say that I would never have got a series 2 landrover through it, the whole project was ditched.
Incidentally I understand that next year the SVA is being replaced with a more difficult IVA? test (individual vehicle application) that has apparentley come in from Europe.
The day of the kit car could be over ?
I bought the SVA book (still have it) and the whole thing is the worst nightmare. Suffice to say that I would never have got a series 2 landrover through it, the whole project was ditched.
Incidentally I understand that next year the SVA is being replaced with a more difficult IVA? test (individual vehicle application) that has apparentley come in from Europe.
The day of the kit car could be over ?
kellys hero said:
Incidentally I understand that next year the SVA is being replaced with a more difficult IVA? test (individual vehicle application) that has apparentley come in from Europe.
It's not as bad as the scare mongerers would have you believe. There has been comment on this forum - look to the top.Edited by FlossyThePig on Monday 15th December 23:04
kellys hero said:
For what it is worth a few years ago I had the great idea of bolting a series 2 Landrover body to a shortend Range Rover chassis. Only after cutting the thing in half and virtually finishing the basic build did I look up the SVA criteria. In a nutshell (and this is on the DVLA web site) if any part of a chassis or monocoque is altered or modified a full sva is required.
I bought the SVA book (still have it) and the whole thing is the worst nightmare. Suffice to say that I would never have got a series 2 landrover through it, the whole project was ditched.
Incidentally I understand that next year the SVA is being replaced with a more difficult IVA? test (individual vehicle application) that has apparentley come in from Europe.
The day of the kit car could be over ?
Can't remember Mark Evans needing SVA on his 4x4 TV series. He did on the Westfield thoughI bought the SVA book (still have it) and the whole thing is the worst nightmare. Suffice to say that I would never have got a series 2 landrover through it, the whole project was ditched.
Incidentally I understand that next year the SVA is being replaced with a more difficult IVA? test (individual vehicle application) that has apparentley come in from Europe.
The day of the kit car could be over ?
Good point about mark Evans, we watched that series with interest as it was at the same time as my build, we gave much thought to that and decided he must have glossed over it for the show, we reffered back to the dvla several times and it was a case that once the chassis was shortened (ie modified) the sva was required. However you could still mot, tax and insure a moded vehicle as no one will ask....until you have an accident that is then you realise that your vehicle is illegally registered, therfore not insured and to top it all they do you for tax fraud too. Admittedly this is all worst case scenario but when you are taking friends, wives etc out in it they rather assume you have insuarnce etc
It is abit of a joke when you consider that if you buy a new "half chassis" for your ageing series Landy (and therfore cut the original in half to fit it) that is does not seem to apply as it is not a modification. the chassis is just as "cut in half" though.
The whole thing is a load of old tosh. Welcome to the nanny world
It is abit of a joke when you consider that if you buy a new "half chassis" for your ageing series Landy (and therfore cut the original in half to fit it) that is does not seem to apply as it is not a modification. the chassis is just as "cut in half" though.
The whole thing is a load of old tosh. Welcome to the nanny world
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