RCB 77 Aerodynamics
RCB 77 Aerodynamics
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fuoriserie

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Was studying these pictures the other night, of the RCB 77, especially of the aerodynamics of the undertray.

What do you guys think ?










fuoriserie

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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A few more with a different design of the rear diffuser and front nose lip.
Just wondering if the aerodynamcis work.....










Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 16th December 08:50

fuoriserie

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other images......






Paul Drawmer

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Louvres underneath look a bit unscientific to me. (Like the look of the thing though)

I'm guessing that under the front of the car will always be a high pressure zone even with a big lip spoiler. So I doubt if the louvres will do anything other than spoil the airflow.

At the rear, where there is a large diffussion space, surely the louvres will spoil the airflow, and bleed air into the low pressure zone, defeating its purpose?

Well that's my PH opinion, now lets hear from someone who knows what they're talking about!



Paul Drawmer

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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AND.... more guessing,
how can any of those front lip spoilers work, surely a splitter has to split the airflow to prevent it going under the car? Those all look as if the air will just flow either side across the top of the lip, and then pour neatly underneath at the trailing edge.



ajprice

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220 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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I like it, especially with the smaller headlamps. Maybe they should do a 'super modern' version that is less like a 7 and more like a Toniq R, that would suit the look of the aerodynamics even more. I have no idea whether the aero stuff would work, but the louvres underneath do seem to go against the flat floor aero work they have done.

Davi

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Paul Drawmer said:
AND.... more guessing,
how can any of those front lip spoilers work, surely a splitter has to split the airflow to prevent it going under the car? Those all look as if the air will just flow either side across the top of the lip, and then pour neatly underneath at the trailing edge.
Just more guesswork, but I think you may be wrong on that one - the standard seven-esque car actually drives air under the car with the shape of the chin. Although as you say it's not going to stop air bleeding in after the trailing edge, it should in theory prevent it being forced under.

Would have been better to taper the trailing edges back along the side panels though!

fuoriserie

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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I've always thought that a smoother undertray was better for airflow........but did notice all those louvres....maybe to extract hot air ?





Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 16th December 12:13

Davi

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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fuoriserie said:
I've always thought that a smoother undertray was better for airflow........but did notice all those louvres....maybe to extract hot air ?





Edited by fuoriserie on Tuesday 16th December 12:13
certainly along the exhaust run I'd imagine that is the case.

fuoriserie

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fuoriserie

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An extreme version......









fuoriserie

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Just wondering if you could work a similar undertray on a locost seven ?

Davi

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Tuesday 16th December 2008
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no reason at all why not - the joy of locosts really, can be adapted as you like.

fuoriserie

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Davi said:
no reason at all why not - the joy of locosts really, can be adapted as you like.
True........smile

dugt

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Wednesday 17th December 2008
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a bit off topic, what are they jacking on on the front? it looks like theres nothing there and its not touching the body of the car

doug

fuoriserie

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Wednesday 17th December 2008
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dugt said:
a bit off topic, what are they jacking on on the front? it looks like theres nothing there and its not touching the body of the car

doug
Hi Doug, check their website for info, here is the link:
http://www.rcb7.de/galerie-1/index.php

Stig

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Wednesday 17th December 2008
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I'm no expert in such matters, but for ground effect to work properly, I thought you needed far less clearance than that?

Davi

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Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Stig said:
I'm no expert in such matters, but for ground effect to work properly, I thought you needed far less clearance than that?
think it's a bit Tescos...




...every little helps

fuoriserie

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Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Stig said:
I'm no expert in such matters, but for ground effect to work properly, I thought you needed far less clearance than that?
True....but if you modify the ground clearance, it works a little.......biggrin

Edited by fuoriserie on Wednesday 17th December 14:10

groomi

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Friday 2nd January 2009
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From my (basic) understanding of aerodynamics, the diffuser looks like it will be innefective for three reasons:

1) The point of change from the flat floor to the diffuser is both too sharp and too close to the rear of the car.
2) The angle of the diffuser is too steep (looks about 45 degrees from the pics.
3) As already said, the louvres will feed air into the low pressure area - although what air is coming out at that point?

Personally, I think the idea is good but the execution is poor. The louvres are obviously there to extract hot air, but that is a very poor solution to an obvious problem. For a start, heat rises, so why try to take it out the bottom? I have seen better engine bay air extracts on other seven-esque cars, situated just above the wasteline behind the front wheels. The rear louvres I assume try to dispand hot air from around the diff - well that won't actually cool the diff, so if it's a problem, then some sort of diff cooling system would be a better bet.

All IMHO ofcourse. smile