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For me, one of the biggest appeals of the F1 is the fact that it has Gordon Murray all over it. He is an automotive hero of mine, and there are so many intricate details and design points that make the car brilliant. Unfortunately, none of these would be captured by a replica.
I'm not for one moment suggesting that you are going head to head with him by building the kit, and would be very keen on reading about the build, but I think what Steve_D says is correct.
I'm not for one moment suggesting that you are going head to head with him by building the kit, and would be very keen on reading about the build, but I think what Steve_D says is correct.
If somebody has the necessary money, time, skill, and space to tackle building a mid engined car from scratch, why on earth would they tie themselves to making a replica of another car? That would be borderline insane.
Instead they should make their own car, it's going to attract plenty of positive attention, and none of the negative attention that a replica does.
Witness the Lamborghini replicas. £30,000 thousand or more and they are never be anything more than pathetic copies
Instead they should make their own car, it's going to attract plenty of positive attention, and none of the negative attention that a replica does.
Witness the Lamborghini replicas. £30,000 thousand or more and they are never be anything more than pathetic copies
bulldog 1 said:
Would anyone like to put a value on a accurate replica of a Mclaren F1?
Bearing in mind that this vehicle is being built professionally using a BMW engine similar to the original.
3 seats, centre locking nuts and bespoke chasis.
Any ideas ??
if its the car i think your refering to then quite a bit more than usual replicas as its very very high quality.... its also going to be very authentic looking, lighter with more advanced suspension...Bearing in mind that this vehicle is being built professionally using a BMW engine similar to the original.
3 seats, centre locking nuts and bespoke chasis.
Any ideas ??
very hard to judge value tho as the original are way out of reach to almost everyone even the very rich unlike almost all the other replicas... even at £100k (which it could well be worth) its still only about 20% of an original.
bulldog 1 said:
Would anyone like to put a value on a accurate replica of a Mclaren F1?
Bearing in mind that this vehicle is being built professionally using a BMW engine similar to the original.
3 seats, centre locking nuts and bespoke chasis.
Any ideas ??
A real McLaren F1 would be a very difficult car to value. Since there are so few, and they are all known, there isn't a market as such. Any one of them will only be worth whatever it changes hands for on any day. The values could vary a lot.Bearing in mind that this vehicle is being built professionally using a BMW engine similar to the original.
3 seats, centre locking nuts and bespoke chasis.
Any ideas ??
So now you ask about a copy which can't even be seen.
Value it - you must be joking. It won't be anywhere near the value of the real thing. So far from it; that the value of the original will be irrelevant.
andygtt said:
V8 GRF said:
Can we stop being cryptic about this and post a link please?
Whos being cryptic?.... and there is no link to post as its just a privatelly owned car built from scratch.Simple fact is originals sell for around £750k... but who knows what a replica will sell for.
Real Mclarens are all the wrong side of £1million. The low mileage one that was in the Park Lane showroom went for £2.5m at Auction recently.
A replica, no matter how well built will be worth nothing even remotely close, the attention to detail in the real F1 like gold leaf inside the engine bay to control the heat, aerospace grade materials and components, a specially built BMW V12, carbon fibre chassis that took 3000 hours to assemble etc etc will ensure that anything else is a poor imitation.
I'd suggest £100k max for one that's 90% accurate and that's probably being generous.
Edited by V8 GRF on Friday 13th February 22:26
V8 GRF said:
I'd suggest £100k max for one that's 90% accurate and that's probably being generous.
That's definately being very generous.However well this car is made, who will shell out that sort of money for an unproven one-off, from an unknown source?
What would it be worth against the best Ultima? More? 2X more? More than that?
Paul Drawmer said:
V8 GRF said:
I'd suggest £100k max for one that's 90% accurate and that's probably being generous.
That's definately being very generous.However well this car is made, who will shell out that sort of money for an unproven one-off, from an unknown source?
What would it be worth against the best Ultima? More? 2X more? More than that?
V8 GRF said:
I was thinking of a fantastic Proteous alloy bodied XJ13 recreation that was sold for about £95k iirc when I was thinking of a price, so if this F1 is to that standard which other posters are suggesting it could be then it could be worth that. If it's compromised then £50k?
I take your point. If (IF) it is a real replica, i.e. a recreation of the original then it could be worth some serious money. However; I still reckon that pricing it in today's conditions would be only guesswork.Would it cost more to recreate an F1 than to buy one of the cars already made? My guess is yes.
Would a prospective builder of such a car get cooperation from McLaren to do so?
If not, then would the finished product be worth more or less than the real thing?
Just make sure you avoid ending up with something like the car on the McLaren F1 replica thread.
Based on a Rover 200 IIRC and stretched to four seats. The guy who made the molds went bust trying to finish it. It owed him over 100K... ..to create a truly awfull parody of the real thing. The guy who bought the project came on this site as meluke 2702 on page 4. His attitude is astonishing.
Most of the picture links are dead but some remain at the bottom of page 11.
WARNING you will never think of McLaren again without this image popping up in mind.
Awesome F1 replica
Based on a Rover 200 IIRC and stretched to four seats. The guy who made the molds went bust trying to finish it. It owed him over 100K... ..to create a truly awfull parody of the real thing. The guy who bought the project came on this site as meluke 2702 on page 4. His attitude is astonishing.
Most of the picture links are dead but some remain at the bottom of page 11.
WARNING you will never think of McLaren again without this image popping up in mind.Awesome F1 replica
That 'car' is absoluetly horrendous! and it is projects like that which lower the value of replicas in many people's eyes... including mine.
The F1 is an absolute engineering masterclass, and i really don't get the point in people trying to part emulate such a thing.
If they had any respect for the vehicle then they should have remained admiring pictures of it.
I'm very intrigued as to what this top notch replica is like now...
The F1 is an absolute engineering masterclass, and i really don't get the point in people trying to part emulate such a thing.
If they had any respect for the vehicle then they should have remained admiring pictures of it.
I'm very intrigued as to what this top notch replica is like now...
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