LightningHybrids
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It looks similar to:
http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
batbuilder92 said:
It looks similar to:
http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
Could have sworn that hi pa drive have gone into administration, which will leave the lightening without motive force!http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
Davi said:
batbuilder92 said:
It looks similar to:
http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
Could have sworn that hi pa drive have gone into administration, which will leave the lightening without motive force!http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
PML website said:
Electric Motor Works Limited has acquired the business and assets of PML Flightlink Limited pursuant to a sale conducted by PML Flightlink’s administrators.
The CEO of Electric Motor Works Limited used to have the same position at PML Flightlink, as were some of the other board members (I think).Electric Motor Works Limited was registered at Companies House on 12/11/2008
FlossyThePig said:
Davi said:
batbuilder92 said:
It looks similar to:
http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
Could have sworn that hi pa drive have gone into administration, which will leave the lightening without motive force!http://www.lightningcarcompany.co.uk/
which is a British company. I went to a presentation last week by Arthur Wolstenholme, ex Ronart and Vanwall about the Lightning. The in-hub motors and battery technology are unique , if they can get a production version out there they will be on to a winner.
The american website looks like a different technology of a hydraulic diesel engine drive. Seems like a good idea of boosting the range, however it increases the number of moving ( wearing) parts somewhat.
The names are very similar though and confusion is bound to arise. One for the lawyers ....
PML website said:
Electric Motor Works Limited has acquired the business and assets of PML Flightlink Limited pursuant to a sale conducted by PML Flightlink’s administrators.
The CEO of Electric Motor Works Limited used to have the same position at PML Flightlink, as were some of the other board members (I think).Electric Motor Works Limited was registered at Companies House on 12/11/2008
ahhh the wonderous ways of business conduct in the UK. Why pay debts when you don't have to eh?PML are based a couple of miles from where I grew up, but buggered if I can get any info from anyone about them - tight lipped lot!
Davi said:
PML are based a couple of miles from where I grew up, but buggered if I can get any info from anyone about them - tight lipped lot!
I did contact PML in December 2006 and got a reply. The HiPa drive motors were £9k then. In the July/August '07 edition of "Plugged In" there was an article bout converting a Citroen C3 to electric power. The initial plan was to use in wheel PML motors but they couldn't get them to work. Perhaps qdos has more info about the car.Hugh
Connaught cars are trying to set up a factory in my home town in S Wales for a Hybrid type car. There is a problem,however, - no planning permission held back by the Welsg Assembly. The apparent reason is a sewerage problem where the local system is not up to scratch. What a ridiculous reason as its factories we need to get us out of recession so why is the infrastructure so woeful?
Why hasn't it been upgraded when there was no recession as there was money flying round everywhere?
Ah... but it was being spent on bonuses and "political" expenses...
Why hasn't it been upgraded when there was no recession as there was money flying round everywhere?
Ah... but it was being spent on bonuses and "political" expenses...
FlossyThePig said:
Davi said:
PML are based a couple of miles from where I grew up, but buggered if I can get any info from anyone about them - tight lipped lot!
I did contact PML in December 2006 and got a reply. The HiPa drive motors were £9k then. In the July/August '07 edition of "Plugged In" there was an article bout converting a Citroen C3 to electric power. The initial plan was to use in wheel PML motors but they couldn't get them to work. Perhaps qdos has more info about the car.Hugh
FlossyThePig said:
I did contact PML in December 2006 and got a reply. The HiPa drive motors were £9k then. In the July/August '07 edition of "Plugged In" there was an article bout converting a Citroen C3 to electric power. The initial plan was to use in wheel PML motors but they couldn't get them to work. Perhaps qdos has more info about the car.
Hugh
'Fraid I've been busy with our own cars lately and not sure what's happening at PML other than yes they have gone, or at least the name has but the motors continue. I've always been rather sceptical over wheel motors but Steve Green has built several cars using them. My understanding is the main problem is reliability of the systems is not good. Personally though all that unsprung weight just seems wrong to me.Hugh
The Lightening itself though is a beautiful looking car I saw it in the Flesh in it's new Guise in July and evolved from the Jaguar replica which was also gorgeous.
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The American machine I've not come across at all before this thread and I'd say is doing a typical American thing of copying something out there and dressing it up as a Good Olde Home Grown American. But then that's not too different to the Lightning really anyway.
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I have to say though the American machine is every bit as hideous as the British one is Gorgeous. If I was Lightning UK I'd be having strong words with USA, Even the logo, to me, is a rip off
Edited by qdos on Wednesday 8th April 08:19
qdos said:
Personally though all that unsprung weight just seems wrong to me.
My understanding is that the motors don't actually weigh much more than the brake disks, callipers etc and are supposed to replace them in the wheel. I'm not sure if they intend a simplified / lighter / inboard emergency system or something (certainly don't fancy the thought of regenerative braking only!!!)Davi said:
My understanding is that the motors don't actually weigh much more than the brake disks, callipers etc and are supposed to replace them in the wheel. I'm not sure if they intend a simplified / lighter / inboard emergency system or something (certainly don't fancy the thought of regenerative braking only!!!)
Put all that energy into something with very little mass and you're guaranteed to get very very hot very quickly. 'Fraid I remain very sceptical of the system. However, put regular motors inboard on a short simple dive shaft............qdos said:
Put all that energy into something with very little mass and you're guaranteed to get very very hot very quickly. 'Fraid I remain very sceptical of the system. However, put regular motors inboard on a short simple dive shaft............
Agree totally - either it wouldn't be entirely capable of absorbing the energy and have to restrict it's regenerative power (and lose braking ability) or find one impressive way of dumping a shed load of energy elsewhere!I've got a wee plan on that front I'm desperate to get on with but just can't get the bloody workshop built!
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