R1 engine cold air feed
R1 engine cold air feed
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teabagger

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723 posts

221 months

Monday 27th April 2009
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Hi all

I've seen a cold air feed airbox fitted to an r1 engine in an MNR .
The air box enclosed a foam 'sausage ' air filter. A section of pipe feeds cold air from the front of the car to the air box.

I know that bike engines are designed to run using ram air- a feature which is normaly missed off on a BEC.

Does anyone know if this kind of air box setup is availabe to buy or is it a DIY thing only?

Thanks for any info.

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

225 months

Monday 27th April 2009
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The cold air feed is precsiely that. Most 7's won't be going fast enough to generate much in the way of ram air. It might gain you a bhp or two over and above that gained from the cold air. I personally wouldn't bother with any ramming effects, although a cold feed is always worth doing.

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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my R1 just has a ducted cold air feed from below the headlight. It does get a healthy blast of cool air at 135!

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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My westy 'bird had a proper airbox with an S-shaped feed straight up to the bonnet vent (all part of the airbox). I've never understood why this isn't more common on becs to prevent heat soak.

One of the neatest installations was a chap that cut a carbon end can in half (actually 1/3 - 2/3), put the larger section over the intake trumpets and then ran a duct to the front of the car. Looked really smart and I'm guessing was also pretty effective in a) reducing intake temps and b) reducing induction noise.

teabagger

Original Poster:

723 posts

221 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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any pics of these mods chaps?

I need some ideas as it sound like I am going to have to construct something myself.

cheers.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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teabagger said:
any pics of these mods chaps?

I need some ideas as it sound like I am going to have to construct something myself.

cheers.
pic of megabird airbox



ETA

The carbon end can looked a bit like this, except the other end of the can was plugged.



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Yes Snake that is an injected engine

Edited by rhinochopig on Tuesday 28th April 21:59

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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I'm guessing that's an injected engine, as there's no way that would fit on my carb'd bird. I just use the Honda airbox on mine, as it does a damn good job of keeping the noise down.

teabagger

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723 posts

221 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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that carbon intake looks very nice

I may try to knock something up. ( though it will not look as nice as the one in the pic!)

mikeveal

5,060 posts

274 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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The usual reason for boxing the air filter is not power, it's noise.
If you're planning on trackdays then every little helps. My Skunk makes more noise from the open sausage filter than it does from the exhaust.

As others have said, you won't be going fast enough for ram air to have an effect.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

222 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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mikeveal said:
The usual reason for boxing the air filter is not power, it's noise.
If you're planning on trackdays then every little helps. My Skunk makes more noise from the open sausage filter than it does from the exhaust.

As others have said, you won't be going fast enough for ram air to have an effect.
I have to respectfully disagree. Hot engine bay air is much less dense, so less oxy in the fuel/air charge = less power.

Boxed cold air feed = more dense air = more power.

Yes it does reduce noise, but it also reduces intake temps.