Getting a kit to the DVLA

[teabagger]

Hi all

Here is a quick question for you guys-

My kit will be trailered to the IVA test site and trailered back to my garage.
I will then need to take the car to a pre arranged DVLA inspection.

How do I insure the car to be driven to the DVLA inspection? The car will not have a reg number and this is one of the things the insurance company will ask you when arranging the insurance.


Any info appreciated.
Thanks

[Davel]

I think that they used to come to you.

Dunno if this is still the case though...

[spdpug98]

It really depends on your local office, my local office is Portsmouth and they have told me that I cannot drive to the Inspection and if I do they will refuse to inspect, and will not carryout a home inspection.

But there have been a few builders on the Locost Forum who have been told by their local office that it is OK to drive it to the inspection, or will give home inspections

It is the DVLA after all.....

ETA: You can insure your car on the chassis number, mine is currently insured with Adrian Flux on the chassis number to allow me to drive to and from the SVA (re-test)

Edited by spdpug98 on Monday 22 June 16:30

[teabagger]

spdpug98 said:

ETA: You can insure your car on the chassis number, mine is currently insured with Adrian Flux on the chassis number to allow me to drive to and from the SVA (re-test)

Edited by spdpug98 on Monday 22 June 16:30

nice info.

A call to my friendly local DVLA office is in order

Thanks.

[Jon Ison]

And when you trailer it to them there will be no where to park, guaranteed.

Then someone will come out, "oh that's the car is it" and then do the necessary, red tape gone mad.

[migwell]

When i did my registering I drove to the Maidstone DVLA office for inspection, obviously it had no number plate, but it was insured thou and MOT'd which I had done prior to SVA, the insurance company said I had to advise them once the reg was issued, to start with it was insured on the chassis number.

[teabagger]

thanks gents

We are just waiting for the IVA date now.

[mikeveal]

You may drive to an IVA or MSVA inspection, so long as you have insurance.

You may not drive to the DVLA inspection that follows. This inspection can be carried out at your premesis (although it takes months to get a appointment), if you wish to take the car to the DVLA it must be trailered, it is not legal to drive it there.

[teabagger]

mikeveal said:

You may drive to an IVA or MSVA inspection, so long as you have insurance.

You may not drive to the DVLA inspection that follows. This inspection can be carried out at your premesis (although it takes months to get a appointment), if you wish to take the car to the DVLA it must be trailered, it is not legal to drive it there.

thanks for the comment
May I ask what your source of this info is?

[matt frost]

The car was insured on the chassis number for the morning of the SVA and it was driven to the SVA and driven to the DVLA inspection with a covering note from the insurance.

Everyone at the DVLA told me a different thing until one lady who knew what she was talking about helped us. She set up an inspection date and time and said it was totally legal to drive the car there if it was insured.

It is a viscious circle, whatever way you do things you are apparently in the wrong, everyone from the DVLA tells you a different way of doing things and they all disagree with the person previous and I deemed this a mixture of the best, most legal and fastest.

Edited for spelling.

Edited by matt frost on Tuesday 23 June 16:05

Edited by matt frost on Tuesday 23 June 16:06

[teabagger]

I can imagine some police officers having all kinds of ideas of what is correct and whats not if he sees you driving along, pulls you and you dont have a reg number!

I will be contacting my local DVLA after the IVA test and asking what their interpretation of the law is.

[spdpug98]

Thought I would add, if you fail your SVA / IVA you can then drive to and from a garage to have the repairs carried out (it is written on the back of the fail sheet). I have done over 100 miles in the last few weeks following my SVA fail going to and from my friends garage to have the work carried out all pre-booked (been 3 times)

As per my earlier post my car is insured on it's chassis number, I do have my re-test on Monday so I have all my fingers crossed for that

[mikeveal]

teabagger said:

mikeveal said:

You may drive to an IVA or MSVA inspection, so long as you have insurance.

You may not drive to the DVLA inspection that follows. This inspection can be carried out at your premesis (although it takes months to get a appointment), if you wish to take the car to the DVLA it must be trailered, it is not legal to drive it there.

thanks for the comment
May I ask what your source of this info is?

Wish I could tell you! my MSVA was two years ago and I lost the source. From what I remember there is a provision in the Road Traffic act under "construction and use" that allow you to operate a vehicle without an appropriate certificate (meaning MOT or I/SVA ) so long as you are either driving to a place of testing to obtain the certificate, or driving to a place of repair.
It's intended to allow us to drive a car without an MOT to a test station without breaking the law. But the wording doesn't mention the type of certificate and the section talk about Ministers Approval Certificates as well as inferring MOT's, so it is generally held that it applies to both.

The DVLA check is not a test for roadworthiness as exempted in the RTA, it's a check to ensure that chassis, and engine numbers are correct and that the vehicle is being registered as the correct type. Therefore you can't drive to the DVLA's tests, but you can drive to VOSA's tests.

Hope that helps.

[Steve_D]

I got lucky and managed to blag a DVLA inspection without an appointment as I just happened to be passing the DVLA office on my way home from my SVA pass.

Steve

[elwe]

mikeveal said:

teabagger said:

mikeveal said:

You may drive to an IVA or MSVA inspection, so long as you have insurance.

You may not drive to the DVLA inspection that follows. This inspection can be carried out at your premesis (although it takes months to get a appointment), if you wish to take the car to the DVLA it must be trailered, it is not legal to drive it there.

thanks for the comment
May I ask what your source of this info is?

Wish I could tell you! my MSVA was two years ago and I lost the source. From what I remember there is a provision in the Road Traffic act under "construction and use" that allow you to operate a vehicle without an appropriate certificate (meaning MOT or I/SVA ) so long as you are either driving to a place of testing to obtain the certificate, or driving to a place of repair.
It's intended to allow us to drive a car without an MOT to a test station without breaking the law. But the wording doesn't mention the type of certificate and the section talk about Ministers Approval Certificates as well as inferring MOT's, so it is generally held that it applies to both.

The DVLA check is not a test for roadworthiness as exempted in the RTA, it's a check to ensure that chassis, and engine numbers are correct and that the vehicle is being registered as the correct type. Therefore you can't drive to the DVLA's tests, but you can drive to VOSA's tests.

Hope that helps.

Close, but not quite right. THe law is a little less specific than you say.

You are allowed to drive (as long as insured) to any prebooked test (that the car is required at) to get your car registered, MOTed (if required) and taxed. The DVLA build up inspection is required to get your car registered and you have to take the car to it. Thus it is completely legal to drive to a build up inspection if you are insured. Note that you cannot drive to a post office to get a new tax disc as the car is not required. You may also drive to prebooked appointments to get faults rectified so long as a prohibition notice is not imposed and subject to the usual road worthyness requirements.

Most DVLA offices don't have a clue and make it up as they go along. If you have the time and fancy some 'fun' chase them up and get them to contact Swansea for clarification. Or as in most cases get a letter of clarification from Swansea and take it to the DVLA office to prove they are taking rubbish. It is quite fun when you have been arguing with them for a few weeks and you take a letter in in person to prove they are wrong. Especially as in my case the Swansea letter included reference to the cluelessness of the local office.

[spdpug98]

elwe said:

Most DVLA offices don't have a clue and make it up as they go along. If you have the time and fancy some 'fun' chase them up and get them to contact Swansea for clarification. Or as in most cases get a letter of clarification from Swansea and take it to the DVLA office to prove they are taking rubbish. It is quite fun when you have been arguing with them for a few weeks and you take a letter in in person to prove they are wrong. Especially as in my case the Swansea letter included reference to the cluelessness of the local office.

How did you get this letter, I have my SVA re-test on Monday then need to 'hopefully' get the BUI carrried out by the DVLA the following week, but it means another trailer etc etc. So if I can get a letter it would save me loads of time and effort

[Steve_D]

I was told by both my local office (Portsmouth) and DVLA at Swansea that you cannot drive to the DVLA inspection.
I would be interested to know what part of legislation the letter gets around.

Steve

[teabagger]

I have found out today that the DVLA can inspect and register a car before it has been IVA'd.
This is the case if the car is to be trailered to the DVLA.

[spdpug98]

teabagger said:

I have found out today that the DVLA can inspect and register a car before it has been IVA'd.

Depends on the office Portsmouth will not inspect at home unless it is a matter of 'life or death' and then they told me I would have to wait so long 'I may as well trailer it to the inspection....'

[Beverlonian]

teabagger said:

I have found out today that the DVLA can inspect and register a car before it has been IVA'd.
This is the case if the car is to be trailered to the DVLA.

Snap thier hand off! I just looked at my MAC and it Xref Section 54 and 58 of 1988 Road Traffic Act. (Glad I've had a drink!). If I knew no different I would say that this said that the SVA, in my case determined that it met the critera required under the act to in effect determine what it was that the DVLA had to register.

I know that all of the offices have their own way of dealing, the Beverley office took 5 weeks to drop a note to our local police station to ask them to do the inspection and he came to me in a couple of days. He looked the car over, took the numbers down in his book, took some photo's congratulated us on a nice car and that was it! Registration document then took a little with longer with DVLA. If your like me and like to keep stuff don't forget to copy your MAC before you hand it over, you don't get it back.

And best of luck with IVA
Andy

Edited by Beverlonian on Saturday 27th June 21:14