IVA suitable??
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cps13

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264 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Does anybody know if these would pass the test? Or do they have to be a metal of some kind?

They would be used for brake pipe connectors.

Cheers

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Push-Fit-6mm-tee-piece-Conne...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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IMHO, having run up against the pedantic, petty, inconsistant, mindles SVA inspectors on a number of occasions, you have not a fookin hope.

As a rule of thumb, if a car manufacturer does not use them, they will not pass it on an IVA/SVA

cps13

Original Poster:

264 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Thought that'd be the case.

Thanks!

Kevp

587 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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??!!!? No way. They are made to be used with low pressure, not high pressure. Dont even try it, one emergency stop or the 1st corner on a track day & you will have no brakes, with fluid pumping everywhere.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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Kevp said:
??!!!? No way. They are made to be used with low pressure, not high pressure. Dont even try it, one emergency stop or the 1st corner on a track day & you will have no brakes, with fluid pumping everywhere.
I totally agree, this is completely and utterly unsuitable for high pressure hydraulic brake applications. I'm wondering if the OP was referring to remote reservoir plumbing?

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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As the others have said, they are no use at all for main pressure brake lines. Your looking for something like this. The only use push fit connectors have is for plumbing in remote reservoirs as they are very low pressure. And even then, I can't see why you'd want a T piece.

cps13

Original Poster:

264 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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Snake the Sniper said:
And even then, I can't see why you'd want a T piece.
Because the manual i'm following (from westfield) says to use them.

tribbles

4,144 posts

246 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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I think the comment on why you'd want a T-piece was more at the remote reservoir bit, rather than why you (the OP) needed it for your car wink

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th July 2009
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tribbles said:
I think the comment on why you'd want a T-piece was more at the remote reservoir bit, rather than why you (the OP) needed it for your car wink
yes You'll probably need one or two for the main brake lines, but I meant that I can't see why you'd need one to plumb in remote reservoirs.

Comadis

1,731 posts

247 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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how somebody can built a kitcar and is not able to differ between a high-pressure t-piece being used in hydraulic- and brakesystems and such a standard (low-pressure) pneumatic fitting?

sorry to say that: if the rest of the car contains the same level of "engineering" i would not like to meet you on the road.

i know that everbody has to start somehwere and every question posted on web-forums should be answered. but sometimes people should ask themselves if they have the skills to do jobs correctly.

always keep in mind: you are driving such a car on public roads!! so if such a DIY construction fails you may also harm uninvolved people.



Edited by Comadis on Friday 31st July 09:06

Smart roadster

769 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Those jobbies look like air fittings and would probably disolve in brake fluid.

cps13

Original Poster:

264 posts

206 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Comadis said:
how somebody can built a kitcar and is not able to differ between a high-pressure t-piece being used in hydraulic- and brakesystems and such a standard (low-pressure) pneumatic fitting?

sorry to say that: if the rest of the car contains the same level of "engineering" i would not like to meet you on the road.

i know that everbody has to start somehwere and every question posted on web-forums should be answered. but sometimes people should ask themselves if they have the skills to do jobs correctly.

always keep in mind: you are driving such a car on public roads!! so if such a DIY construction fails you may also harm uninvolved people.



Edited by Comadis on Friday 31st July 09:06
Thank you very much for your comments, however, to be perfectly honest I couldn't care less what you opinion is.

Did the thought never go thru your peasy ass head that maybe the reason I asked was because I didn't want to be producing an unsafe car? God forbid!

And as my second post said, the others confirmed exaclty what I thought. And if my DIY is really so unsafe, it wouldn't pass the test!! I asked because in the advert it states they can be used for brakes, and I wanted to check before making a stupid mistake... you baffoon!

I do believe there is a forum for people like you, its on the ITV website under the 'loose women' section.

Rant over.

Sorry but it really annoys me when people have nothing better to do than take a dig for no reason.

thescamper

920 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Comadis said:
how somebody can built a kitcar and is not able to differ between a high-pressure t-piece being used in hydraulic- and brakesystems and such a standard (low-pressure) pneumatic fitting?

sorry to say that: if the rest of the car contains the same level of "engineering" i would not like to meet you on the road.

i know that everbody has to start somehwere and every question posted on web-forums should be answered. but sometimes people should ask themselves if they have the skills to do jobs correctly.

always keep in mind: you are driving such a car on public roads!! so if such a DIY construction fails you may also harm uninvolved people.



Edited by Comadis on Friday 31st July 09:06
Comadis, you have asked some pretty simple questions on here in the past. As you say everyone has to start somewhere so give the guy a break and keep opinions like that above to yourself.


Comadis

1,731 posts

247 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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sorry cps:

the iva, the sva and the mot do not prove anything for me...as people do this job, mistakes can happen and maybe such a DIY construction will not be recognized and your car wont fail the test in this matter!!

sure, these tests are better than no test.


but i´ve seen and driven too many kitcars on which i often thought: how the hell these cars passed a test (sva and mot)!!!

i agree with you that posting such a question is better than doing any mistakes which may harm some people...but i never would have the idea to use pneumatic fittings in a brake circuit...this is essential, basic knowledge which somebody building a car should have!!

maybe the IVA test should be extended also to the builders!!!






sospan

2,755 posts

246 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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those are quick fit low pressure air joints!
meant for use with plastic tubing
absolutely and utterly NOT for hydraulic use
esp brake system!
Jesus... makes you wonder what could be on the road!

Brabus Jord

1,589 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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I use them on my 1/5th scale racing car for the hydro brakes and if i brakes too hard sometimes they are know to 'pop'. Even though they have a metal 'thing' inside which grips but its not great.

BTW the car servo pulls about 15kg and it can pop so i would only suggest you use this on a real car if it were used for say something like a water pipe for the washer jets. nothing more.....

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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sospan said:
those are quick fit low pressure air joints!
meant for use with plastic tubing
absolutely and utterly NOT for hydraulic use
esp brake system!
Jesus... makes you wonder what could be on the road!
Many don't like SVA/IVA but this is the very situation it was introduced for and the kitcar industry is the better for it.

I have no problem with the OP. If you don't have an engineering bent then better to ask than plough on in ignorance.
Well done OP. The only stupid question is the one you don't have the balls to ask.

Steve