suspensnion bushes 98´Fisher Fury

[Comadis]

anybody can help me which bushes i need to order for the suspension on a Fisher Fury?

it seams that all the metalastic bushes have the same dimension (front wishbones, rear 4-link). the chassis brackets are manufactured to use M10 (or maybe 3/8") bolts....but, now it comes: all bushes which are fitted to the car do have a 1/2" center sleeve of the bushes.

the outer diameter of the metalastic bush is 27,25mm...what is that in inch?

so i would prefer the same metalistac ones with a centre sleeve to use a 3/8" bolt.

where do i get them? i want to stay at metalastic. polybush is not choice.

Edited by Comadis on Thursday 30th July 21:07

[Furyblade_Lee]

I think you will need to go to fisher sportscars direct, or BGH Geartech (the same premesis) From memory when i built my Fury I enlarged the holes on the chassis with a Dremel grinder as the holes through the bushes were larger than the holes in the chassis. When done, the new larger bolts were a snug tight fit through both chassis and the mettalastic bush with no play.

[Comadis]

i phoned today with fisher: they have no clue what they fitted and why it does not fit on my car. they do need a "drawing" as they dont understand what it means to have a 1/2" bore in the bush and holes in the chassis for 3/8" bolts.

i must agree...its very,very complicated to understand this!!! extreme complicated!!

but its the same situation as on yours: the holes in the chassis are too small.

i sure do not enlarge them as the powder-coating will be damaged.

and the only proper way would be using a larger drill, as with a dremel you will not enlarge the hole centered!!





i want to go the proper way in fitting the correct bushes. the last alternative would be adaptor sleeves onto the small bolt (but this sleeves will be very thin than)

Edited by Comadis on Thursday 30th July 21:38

[robcollingridge]

Jeremy Philips (and Fisher Sports Cars) have always used 12mm bolts in 1/2" bushes. There is a huge discussion on this in the Sylva Chat List archives.

This is not an issue as the bolts are tightened to clamp the bushes and stop any movement. Despite the logic behind this, the more correct engineering solution adopted by some owners, is to drill out the chassis points to 1/2" and to then use 1/2" bolts through them.

Personally, I've left 12mm bolts in mine and can see no sign of movement at all. This assumes they have been torqued up correctly though.

[Furyblade_Lee]

Rob's right, theoretically it should not cause a problem. Just make sure you torque up the bolts with the car on the ground with the full weight on the suspension, or you will have very interesting handling!!! I am 100% sure all Furies have identical mettalstic bushes.

[Comadis]

it seams that nobody is replying on my question correctly ordoesnt want to understand what i mean:

so again:

my chassis mounting points are for 3/8" (or M10) bolts.

and my question was: where do i get metalasitc bushes which have a 3/8" bore and the same outside diameter as the existing ones!!

i definately will not enlarge any holes in the chassis.

Edited by Comadis on Thursday 30th July 22:42

[Furyous]

Comadis said:

and my question was: where do i get metalasitc bushes which have a 3/8" bore and the same outside diameter as the existing ones!!

i definately will not enlarge any holes in the chassis.

I would try taking one of your original bushes down to a good motor factor along with a vernier, and see if they have anything that will do the job.

Best of luck !

[Comadis]

unfortunatly its very tricky/nearly impossible here in germany to source parts like that.

you always have to tell them exactly what you need, incl. the model code and at least in such a case , with a kitcar, where these parts are "normally" found.

even when you maybe find somebody wiling to help it will fail due to the measuremtns being in inch.

[Furyous]

Imperial to metric conversion is easy enough.

Maybe try talking to someone over here, maybe euro carparts ?

[strikerscoop]

These people do various metalastic bushes

http://www.antivibrationmethodsrubber.co.uk/html/t...

Fairly sure my Striker uses the BP636/2 ones but these have a 1/2" hole in them . I'm not sure you're going to find any standard ones with a 10mm hole in them . If you don't want to drill the chassis then your best bet is to sleeve them down to 10mm ,easily done, I sleeved mine down to 12mm no problem . I sleeved mine so that when I had the suspension set up I knew everything was going back to the same position everytime the wishbones came off to adjust anything .
You could try Mel at RAW , he's always helpful . Not sure what the differences in the chassis are between the Striker and Fury but at one time they were very similar so hemay be able to help.

HTH

John

[Comadis]

update:

we checked the suspension on our 2nd fisher: the same!!!

but: this car is a "factory" demonstrator car, built by Fisher for Marc Fisher!!!


what a great masterstroke of engineering!!!

Edited by Comadis on Saturday 1st August 15:40

[Comadis]

next update: after a few phone calls with fisher they confirmed that they had "some" of these problems on certain cars.

[Furyblade_Lee]

Just carefully enlarge the holes, rustproof them and put the bolts in. I know dozens of cars that have had this done, some have won RGB races outright and none have rusted away, fallen apart or handle badly. It's not ideal I grant you, I was not particularly thrilled to have to do it myself but I did it and 1 hour later I could concentrate on the other 100 dilemas in building my Fury.