Duratec & gearbox Question
Duratec & gearbox Question
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Pilot Pete

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670 posts

242 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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Hi I am planing a new project.
It's a camper van as it happens rear wheel drive of course.

The plan is to fit a a Duratec V6 engine.
I was thinking Mondeo what is the best/easier/cheepest one to go for 2.5 or 3.0? model year type etc????

I was thinking of getting a salavage car as I want all the gubbins the ecu, wiring loom, A/C etc

And also what rear wheel drive box should I go for, something that bolts straight on with minimum fuss would be great.

jamesG20V6

873 posts

281 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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It isn't easy, although aftermarket bell housings are now available as Morgan now fit them.
Mine is running a Cosworth T5 with modified cosworth bellhousing and custom adapter plate.
To be honest if you are planning on running it standard even a late ST24 will only give 168bhp and would suggest it isn't worth the hassle or extra expense over a good four pot. If you go aftermarket ECU and the ST200 or St220 it starts to make sense as good BHP is available.



jamesG20V6

873 posts

281 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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In fact, if it is a camper surely this is all wrong as it is rear engined and would therefore (unless you are planning a mid engine build!) need a transaxle?

Pilot Pete

Original Poster:

670 posts

242 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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It is mid engine as it happens but I thought being a ford it would be widely used in Kits and hence easy. Nobody has done want I want plan to do yet so I wanted engine and electrics to just drop in really.

mmm maybe I should look into a Vauxhall

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Sunday 23rd August 2009
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Pilot Pete said:
It is mid engine as it happens but I thought being a ford it would be widely used in Kits and hence easy.
One of the main reasons it isn't used much is because of the lack of RWD gearboxes. The Jag S type uses a Duratec derived engine, and the box from this will bolt up to a Duratec with a bit of fettling. Or better still use the complete Jag engine and box.

dangerrous

44 posts

263 months

Monday 24th August 2009
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Look at audi for inspiration, their engines and gearboxes are inline front wheel drive, A4 and up.
Hope that helps, plenty of power available
D

GTRCLIVE

4,193 posts

307 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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Pete.... CAMPER......
god now thats a Great fall from a Ult..

browser07

100 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th August 2009
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I agree with james am curently trying to do something simular useing a st200 engine in to my G26 I have the entire loom from the donor but a few things like the imoboliser and abs are still to be removed I still want to have the option of tc ,call it a chicken button if you like smile
am also having problems finding parts as its not very widely used

mite a porshe g50 transaxle fit ?
from a 944 I think ?

Dan

Pilot Pete

Original Poster:

670 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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Clive it a bit more fun than a tow car, by the time I am done you should be making V10 engine chassis and we can start all again smile

I have to say I am leaning more and more to the VX set up as I want to keep the cost down and I'm looking for something that will drop straight in with min fuss.

The question is now how new do I go to get the power and fuel figures, before I get all the problems with the new electric's.

Did VX do a good V6 that stands out in your mind?

P

andygtt

8,345 posts

288 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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the noble uses the ford duratec V6 with the mondeo gearbox... just lift one out of an ST200 although for the power why not fit a VW engine such as the 1.8 turbo? again box will already be attached!

browser07

100 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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andygtt said:
the noble uses the ford duratec V6 with the mondeo gearbox... just lift one out of an ST200
if you do upgrade the diff as it is tiny and cant handel the abuse I have a st200 my spare gearbox has got a lot of powered metal were the diff once was

dan

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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Pilot Pete said:
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Did VX do a good V6 that stands out in your mind?

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The 3.0L from the MV6/Elite Omega isn't a bad lump.

Pilot Pete

Original Poster:

670 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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I can't use the noble set up.
When I say it's a mid engine I mean the engine sits behind the seats in the front, so I need a longish prop too.

VX is looking like the best way.

andygtt

8,345 posts

288 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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Pilot Pete said:
I can't use the noble set up.
When I say it's a mid engine I mean the engine sits behind the seats in the front, so I need a longish prop too.

VX is looking like the best way.
AHA so it needs to be longitudal?... so why go for the V6.. why not something equally cheap but bigger?

jamesG20V6

873 posts

281 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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^ What he said. I would be gong BMW personally.

spaximus

4,364 posts

277 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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Depending on the weight of the camper you need to watch the weight of the flywheel. Commercials have heavy flywheels so when loaded they do not stall as easily and judder