Adverts in the classified
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If any of you chaps are looking to buy the silver Banham X21 in the classified adds, be warned.
The seller is talking a load of the "usual" when describing the car. I know, it's my old car. It isn't from the factory or a demonstrator and it isn't a car you can use all the time. If you do want to know anything about it, I'm glad to help. He did get one thing correct though, it is a fun car.
The seller is talking a load of the "usual" when describing the car. I know, it's my old car. It isn't from the factory or a demonstrator and it isn't a car you can use all the time. If you do want to know anything about it, I'm glad to help. He did get one thing correct though, it is a fun car.
Saying it's a factory car implies that it was put together by a bunch of engineers that know the car inside and out. It wasn't, however I'm not going to turn around and tell you the chap that did do it wasn't capable, he was. He must know someone in the trade though because as soon as I had chance to, it was in the local garage being looked at. No way would it have passed it's test and it took plenty of cold hard cash to get correct. The roof itself is all ok, however it is a basic design that severely limits any sideways vision unless you are very small. It may peel off if not put on absolutely correctly and if you want to do more than an indicated 85 (ish) it will start to unwrap itself. It will also let in water and wind, it's a design fault not a failure of the roof itself. The heater is weak, so winter motoring can be a pain. If you're interested in the car, ask if the brakes have been fixed, they used to work but needed a mighty shove to do so. Probably the Master servo, I gave one to the guy who bought it off me but I don't know if he fitted it. Theres more, but unless you need it, I shouldn't worry about it. It was a fun car though, at the end of the day, that's why I bought it.
Banham said:
Saying it's a factory car implies that it was put together by a bunch of engineers that know the car inside and out. It wasn't,
No it doesn't! I've had experience of Banham's output, direct from the 'factory', and I'm here to tell you that saying it's a factory car does not prove anything of the sort!I really don't know what your beef with this guy's advert is, and your explanation doesn't hold any water. There's more to this thread than meets the eye, I reckon.
Apologies for the mixture of Amercian and British vernacular.
seansverige said:
singlecoil said:
...a factory car does not prove anything of the sort!
Interesting. Have you had experience with other brand's factory builds, i.e. is this a good rule of thumb generally?singlecoil said:
I really don't know what your beef with this guy's advert is, and your explanation doesn't hold any water. There's more to this thread than meets the eye, I reckon.
I think you are reading more into this than there is personally. The guy owned the car previously and has spotted untruthful claims in the advert and is warning any interested parties that the current owner may not be the most honest person. Seems like a good thing to me.Mr2Mike said:
singlecoil said:
I really don't know what your beef with this guy's advert is, and your explanation doesn't hold any water. There's more to this thread than meets the eye, I reckon.
I think you are reading more into this than there is personally. The guy owned the car previously and has spotted untruthful claims in the advert and is warning any interested parties that the current owner may not be the most honest person. Seems like a good thing to me.He doesnt have a beef with this guy, i informed the OP (my dad) that his old car was on here and it was untruthful in the description. I thought if anyone was looking at buying it, then they should know the truth, and that the advert was inaccurate. It was a fun car but i agree it was ugly but in a cute kind of way........ ill get my coat.
Only looking out for fellow pistonheaders.
Only looking out for fellow pistonheaders.
Mr2Mike said:
singlecoil said:
I really don't know what your beef with this guy's advert is, and your explanation doesn't hold any water. There's more to this thread than meets the eye, I reckon.
I think you are reading more into this than there is personally. The guy owned the car previously and has spotted untruthful claims in the advert and is warning any interested parties that the current owner may not be the most honest person. Seems like a good thing to me.Furyblade_Lee said:
Sorry, but anyone who buys an X21 and a Vindicator needs the Style Police to pay them a visit, preferably taking their front door off at 5am :-). . No offence to the OP, but anyone who considers buying that X21 has bigger issues to worry about than the roof peeling off at 85.
Hey, my Vindicator's not ugly from all angles. Looking from underneath for instance 
I never really got the X21. The looks of an Audi TT with the running gear of a Metro... just what I always wanted.
karl922 said:
He doesnt have a beef with this guy, i informed the OP (my dad) that his old car was on here and it was untruthful in the description. I thought if anyone was looking at buying it, then they should know the truth, and that the advert was inaccurate. It was a fun car but i agree it was ugly but in a cute kind of way........ ill get my coat.
Only looking out for fellow pistonheaders.
But am I right in thinking that the only problem with the advert is that the car was not built in the Banham factory (whatever that might be) and that as far as the rest of the advert was concerned that it was just a bit overenthusiastic ablout kit car in general and this one in paticular?Only looking out for fellow pistonheaders.
Mr2Mike said:
singlecoil said:
I really don't know what your beef with this guy's advert is, and your explanation doesn't hold any water. There's more to this thread than meets the eye, I reckon.
I think you are reading more into this than there is personally. The guy owned the car previously and has spotted untruthful claims in the advert and is warning any interested parties that the current owner may not be the most honest person. Seems like a good thing to me.And that this is what Pistonheaders needed to be warned about? I still think that it is odd that this thread was started. Does it really matter that it wasn't built up by Banham himself (I don't think he ever had what could be called a factory. Having seen some of the other Banham stuff I should think that was a good thing.
Edited by singlecoil on Tuesday 1st December 22:08
It was the fact that the seller described the car as "factory built", that highlighted the general trust of the vendor. For example, if I was to say a car was owned by a famous celebrity, which can in many cases add value to a car, but actually lie, is that ok?
After all, you are buying a car, it would be the same car and the fact that a celebrity hadn't owned the car makes no difference to the car itself. Yet,
you would feel cheated if you found out that Pierce Brosnan was actually
Pierce Brosnan from number 21 Duckforth close, Clackton and not the one of Bond fame. If you don't mind traveling miles to view a car that isn't as the vendor described, fine, I'm pissing in the wind, but if you want an accurate description (which is what I tried to give) then I would hope someone would turn round and do the honest thing and let me know, if I was going to view a pup.
Like my son said, I'm only trying to alert people on one of those rare occasions when I have some knowledge on the subject (thanks Karl)and your stance on the subject dumbfounds me, the way you defend the sellers position. Unless of course you know the guy who placed the advert?
After all, you are buying a car, it would be the same car and the fact that a celebrity hadn't owned the car makes no difference to the car itself. Yet,
you would feel cheated if you found out that Pierce Brosnan was actually
Pierce Brosnan from number 21 Duckforth close, Clackton and not the one of Bond fame. If you don't mind traveling miles to view a car that isn't as the vendor described, fine, I'm pissing in the wind, but if you want an accurate description (which is what I tried to give) then I would hope someone would turn round and do the honest thing and let me know, if I was going to view a pup.
Like my son said, I'm only trying to alert people on one of those rare occasions when I have some knowledge on the subject (thanks Karl)and your stance on the subject dumbfounds me, the way you defend the sellers position. Unless of course you know the guy who placed the advert?
Banham said:
It was the fact that the seller described the car as "factory built", that highlighted the general trust of the vendor. For example, if I was to say a car was owned by a famous celebrity, which can in many cases add value to a car, but actually lie, is that ok?
After all, you are buying a car, it would be the same car and the fact that a celebrity hadn't owned the car makes no difference to the car itself. Yet,
you would feel cheated if you found out that Pierce Brosnan was actually
Pierce Brosnan from number 21 Duckforth close, Clackton and not the one of Bond fame. If you don't mind traveling miles to view a car that isn't as the vendor described, fine, I'm pissing in the wind, but if you want an accurate description (which is what I tried to give) then I would hope someone would turn round and do the honest thing and let me know, if I was going to view a pup.
Like my son said, I'm only trying to alert people on one of those rare occasions when I have some knowledge on the subject (thanks Karl)and your stance on the subject dumbfounds me, the way you defend the sellers position. Unless of course you know the guy who placed the advert?
And I am very surprised at the way you are keeping this thread going. Still, since you are, I don't know this car, or you, or the person selling it. After all, you are buying a car, it would be the same car and the fact that a celebrity hadn't owned the car makes no difference to the car itself. Yet,
you would feel cheated if you found out that Pierce Brosnan was actually
Pierce Brosnan from number 21 Duckforth close, Clackton and not the one of Bond fame. If you don't mind traveling miles to view a car that isn't as the vendor described, fine, I'm pissing in the wind, but if you want an accurate description (which is what I tried to give) then I would hope someone would turn round and do the honest thing and let me know, if I was going to view a pup.
Like my son said, I'm only trying to alert people on one of those rare occasions when I have some knowledge on the subject (thanks Karl)and your stance on the subject dumbfounds me, the way you defend the sellers position. Unless of course you know the guy who placed the advert?
I've already made my points earlier in this thread and don't wish to repeat myself.
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