17 year old driver
Discussion
i will be turning seventeen soon and really want a kit car (7 style). i would be interested to know what the cheapest cars to insure would be and also what engine. i learnt from somewhere that motorbike engined kit cars are really cheap on insurance, but would this also apply to me.
any help would be really appreciated
lee
any help would be really appreciated
lee
lee_wales said:
i will be turning seventeen soon and really want a kit car (7 style).
A long time ago when I was 22, my 1600 XFlow Sylva Fury was less than £300 to insure. If you see a car you fancy (or just make up a spec if you were building) then nothing wrong with getting a quote for a car you don't have.
I based a motorcycle purchase last year on insurance!
From my dealings with insurers, they don't seem too bothered about engine state of tune. If you had a 1300 with 70bhp or 120bhp it may not make any difference!
lee_wales said:
could you give me a few ideas on what the insurance might be aswell?
cheers
A question that can only be answered by an insurance company, just try a few out on the sort of car you're after (although not HHH now
) Rest assured it will be cheaper than the alternative (saxo, corsa, punto etc) John
www.madabout-kitcars.com
Get yourself a copy of Kit Car Magazine (keep Den happy) and Which Kit? (piss Den off 
) and flick through the classifieds.
I've just had a cursory look and there's a couple of unfinished 1600 pinto based kits for between 1-2k. There's a Spartan for 1k.
I'd say Duttons would be worth a look. Which Kit? has a Phaeton 1600cc X-flow for £1375.
) and flick through the classifieds. I've just had a cursory look and there's a couple of unfinished 1600 pinto based kits for between 1-2k. There's a Spartan for 1k.
I'd say Duttons would be worth a look. Which Kit? has a Phaeton 1600cc X-flow for £1375.
my westy costs me £400 fully comp in a dodgy area at 21, so a 1300 X-Flow at 17 in a good area will be at a guess only £700ish?? area makes a big difference, at my mothers house it's only £200. 1300 X-Flow will still hit 60 on 7.5 - 8 secs anyway, and that's a good deal faster than the 1.1l fester alternative...
Forget the rest. . . it’s bad 
advice
! 
LexSport said:
I'd say Duttons would be worth a look. Which Kit? has a Phaeton 1600cc X-flow for £1375.
Ok, I could be accused of being biased, but that's a good suggestion
try www.duttonownersclub.co.uk
enjoy
Graham's right, you'll struggle to find a specalist insurer which takes on sub 18/19 year olds. I'm 20, have a 1800TC Marlin Roadster and it costs me £600 TPFT unlimited mileage. This is also my first car so I have had no no-claims.
Sorry to disappoint, but you'll be very, very hard pushed to insure a kit car at your age
Try Graham Skyes tho, they did good by me!
Sorry to disappoint, but you'll be very, very hard pushed to insure a kit car at your age
Try Graham Skyes tho, they did good by me!docevi1 said:
Sorry to disappoint, but you'll be very, very hard pushed to insure a kit car at your age
Perhaps true, but lets not be down on the Guy, he wants to get into kits and that's a great thing, insurance will be a killer on anycar at 17, but where there is a will there is a way. Don't give up. I see your idea about low capacity bike engines being cheaper, but insurance companies have wised up to this, and seriously a bike powered kit as your first car
A decent kit is available within your budget (Does the £2K include insurance?), make a short list of models you would consider, then get on ebay, kitcar mag(s), etc, etc. Something like the ABS Freestyle could be very cheap to buy, own , and insure.
All the best,
Matt.
sorry, not the intended message. I love my Marlin, I really do and would heartily recommend any body to try them out at our age. In fact, my mates love it too, to the extent one of them is looking around for something to buy in a similar vein.
One just has to be reasonable about these things, and if he's anything like me will be very disappointed when he rings insurance companies and is told prices. I remember been gutted when I was told the cost to insure anything at 17. It turned me off owning my own car for several years (then I found kit-cars).
The other thing to consider, is while buying and insuring a car is relatively cheap (in relative terms) running it (the Marlin gets <20mpg), fixing it (it's cost me £150 ish on a better-than-good example in 4months of use) and the worry about leaving it everywhere.
If you can, get a kit-car and if you can't explore every avenue to get one, but please don't be so disappointed it turns you off cars like it did me when you can't get what you want.
>> Edited by docevi1 on Thursday 5th February 23:50
One just has to be reasonable about these things, and if he's anything like me will be very disappointed when he rings insurance companies and is told prices. I remember been gutted when I was told the cost to insure anything at 17. It turned me off owning my own car for several years (then I found kit-cars).
The other thing to consider, is while buying and insuring a car is relatively cheap (in relative terms) running it (the Marlin gets <20mpg), fixing it (it's cost me £150 ish on a better-than-good example in 4months of use) and the worry about leaving it everywhere.
If you can, get a kit-car and if you can't explore every avenue to get one, but please don't be so disappointed it turns you off cars like it did me when you can't get what you want.
>> Edited by docevi1 on Thursday 5th February 23:50
mattstead said:
Perhaps true, but lets not be down on the Guy, he wants to get into kits and that's a great thing, insurance will be a killer on anycar at 17, but where there is a will there is a way.
I didn't mean to sound quite so harsh, but I speak from experience, I've been waiting for over a year since I bought my Westfield to get insurance on it, and I'm still waiting till the end of the month when I turn 18 to see if I can get insured on it. I will report back then.
Keep ringing round companies, you may be lucky and find someone who will insure you, and when you do, tell me
Good luck,
Graham
Regards buying the car definately ebay but there is also a website called "kit car mart" or something like that try there
And whatever you do don't get disheartened. I bought a kit that was part built and still registered as the donor had a battle and won against the authorities, see thread "aswering dens challenge"
One last thing "nil carberundum illigitemi" Or in english "dont let the
grind you down"
>> Edited by spartan_andy on Friday 6th February 09:10
And whatever you do don't get disheartened. I bought a kit that was part built and still registered as the donor had a battle and won against the authorities, see thread "aswering dens challenge"
One last thing "nil carberundum illigitemi" Or in english "dont let the
grind you down" >> Edited by spartan_andy on Friday 6th February 09:10
cheers everyone. but i think i'll have to wait another year before i can drive a kit car on the road then.
i mainly wanted the car for track days and hill climbs etc.
could anyone tell me if i could still do this without being insured on the road? loton hill climb is just down the road from me but the website doesn't give enough information.i could also do with knowing where the nearest track days to me are held. (i live in mid wales)
i mainly wanted the car for track days and hill climbs etc.
could anyone tell me if i could still do this without being insured on the road? loton hill climb is just down the road from me but the website doesn't give enough information.i could also do with knowing where the nearest track days to me are held. (i live in mid wales)
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