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seansverige said:
Isn't the Subaru 1.6l a V4?
Not according to Wikipedia, seems they only made boxer and inline engines:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Subaru_engine...
Chris71 said:
funwithrevs said:
A half decent replica of anything has got to cost upwards of 20K to build, and you can get a nice original for less than that. Don't think it would make sense as a kit.
This is the case with a lot of cars. It hasn't always stopped people in the past though.
funwithrevs said:
seansverige said:
Isn't the Subaru 1.6l a V4?
Not according to Wikipedia, seems they only made boxer and inline engines:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Subaru_engine...
funwithrevs said:
Chris71 said:
funwithrevs said:
A half decent replica of anything has got to cost upwards of 20K to build, and you can get a nice original for less than that. Don't think it would make sense as a kit.
This is the case with a lot of cars. It hasn't always stopped people in the past though.
That to me makes sense, likewise the more accurate GT40s, Jaguar D-Types and the like. Only a very priveleged few will ever experience the original.
However, when you see replicas of 911s (where a perfectly serviceable 964 can be had for £10k) or Austin Healey look-a-likes that cost more than a basic example of the original you start to question the logic.
seansverige said:
funwithrevs said:
seansverige said:
Isn't the Subaru 1.6l a V4?
Not according to Wikipedia, seems they only made boxer and inline engines:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Subaru_engine...
VW nicked the Lancia idea for the narrow V engine....
Sam_68 said:
E31Shrew said:
slomax said:
didn't saab use V4's for a while? other than that I can only think of motorbike V4's, but that wouldn't really be a replica.
and Ford! CorsairNot a narrow angle V4, like the Fulvia, though.
Chris71 said:
...you can get a car that feels, sounds and drives virtually identical to an original Stratos for an order of magnitude less. Most replica owners would never possibly be able to own an original (I don't mean that in a negative way, it's just a statement of fact - it's what, about four times the price of a decent replica to get a basic Stratos road car?).
It's really quite a depressingly short period of time (or maybe just a sign that I'm getting old?) since myself and a couple of mates discussed the possibility of bunging £10K each in a pot to buy a genuine Stratos to share between us. We decided that the potential for maintenance costs and accident repairs ruining friendships was too great, in the end, but that was without the 20/20 hindsight that would have enabled us to foresee Chris Hrabalek artificially sending the market stratospheric (pardon the pun) by hoarding every car that became available.
I suspect that it just isn't famous enough to justify a replica.
For a replica to make sales it must replicate a car that a lot of customers want but can't afford. That means a few very famous cars from a few very famous makes. Lambo replicas and Cobra replicas work for this reason.
The only "but" is if the replica can piggy back off spare parts sales. For example if a Lotus Elan replica could be sold as a package of Elan spare parts (effectively what spyder already do). A TVR Griffith replica might be feasable on this basis especially if a LS1 chassis could be provided as an option.
But a Fulvia? It just isn't anywhere near feasable as a replica.
For a replica to make sales it must replicate a car that a lot of customers want but can't afford. That means a few very famous cars from a few very famous makes. Lambo replicas and Cobra replicas work for this reason.
The only "but" is if the replica can piggy back off spare parts sales. For example if a Lotus Elan replica could be sold as a package of Elan spare parts (effectively what spyder already do). A TVR Griffith replica might be feasable on this basis especially if a LS1 chassis could be provided as an option.
But a Fulvia? It just isn't anywhere near feasable as a replica.
Sam_68 said:
It's really quite a depressingly short period of time (or maybe just a sign that I'm getting old?) since myself and a couple of mates discussed the possibility of bunging £10K each in a pot to buy a genuine Stratos to share between us.
Ouch! Yeah, that would have been one of few occasions where a car could provide a significant return on your investment...Hang on... the snappy handling put you off a Griffith and you wanted to buy a Stratos?
Chris71 said:
Hang on... the snappy handling put you off a Griffith and you wanted to buy a Stratos?
Yeah, well... I've driven (and set up) a Ferrari-engined Stratos replica for a mate, (one of the mates, indeed, who would have been part of the syndicate on the genuine article), so I knew what I was letting myself in for. There are some designs that are so iconic that I'd live with the shortcomings (the Mercedes gullwing and the Lamborghini Miura being the obvious candidates, not that I'll ever be able to afford either).I don't mind cars that are predictably unpredictable, if you see what I mean... the BIG problem with the Griffith wasn't the 99.98% of the time that it was just an over-powered, badly-engineered short wheelbase sportscar with crap steering geometry. The BIG problem was the other 0.02% of the time when it would try to kill you for no better reason than it had encountered a bit of cambered tarmac that its rear roll centre took a random dislike to.
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