Trials Cars
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ML

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124 posts

194 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Is there any kits out there that make good trials cars? I am looking for something road legal, but with the ability to do some off-roading, preferably with two or more seats.
Thanks in advance for any replies

Paul Drawmer

5,124 posts

291 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Well....where have you looked?

many years ago..there was the Cannon, can't remember if they were road legal or not, maybe the Dellow is the nearest thing?
http://www.dellowregister.co.uk/dellow_Sales.htm

These are deffo not road legal:
http://www.trialscar.com/

Edited by Paul Drawmer on Saturday 8th May 16:41

thescamper

920 posts

250 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Can't see how a decent trials car could be made road legal.

Although it depends what type of trial you plan on doing?

If its the Lands End type of trial

Try here for a few examples

gtmdriver

333 posts

197 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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The Reliant based Liege was designed as a trials car.

It has been SVA tested. I'm not sure about the IVA.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

269 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Depends whether you want to build it yourself, or buy second-hand, but apart from the Liege, the Marlin Roadster, Tempest (another Reliant based car) and Triking have been successfully used in trials.

There was also a car called the Troll T6 (which looked like a Series 1 Lotus Seven with much increased ground clearance) that was about as close as you can get to a purpose-built trials car whilst atill remaining properly road-useable, but only a few were built and they are now very rare and sought-after.

As suggested, one big problem with building a car these days will be the IVA test, since a lot of the soft-and-cuddly features of the IVA test (like external projections requirements) don't sit particularly comfortably with the paracticality requirements of a trials car.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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The Marlin is a favourite, I've seen lots of these used on the Lands end trial.

ML

Original Poster:

124 posts

194 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Would it be possible to take something like a Caterham or Westfield, raise the ride height, and made it into a good trials car?

Sam_68

9,939 posts

269 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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I have seen Westfeilds used on trials, taking this approach, but they're not well suited.

Westfeilds and Caterhams are designed to run at just about the minimum possible ground clearance for road use, wereas trials cars need just about the maximum. The result is that if you simple jack the suspension up that far, the geometry is well outside its optimum working range (and on an IRS/DeDion car, the driveshafts would be at pretty extreme angles, too).

To do it properly, you'd have to re-engineer the chassis with relocated suspension pickups that are designed from the outset to work with a raised ground clearance... which is pretty much what the Troll T6 did, albeit on a completely clean sheet of paper.