Zetec to type 9 gearbox
Zetec to type 9 gearbox
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Richardsix

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151 posts

186 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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Anyone no if these two mate up, or do you need an adapter of sorts?
Richard

jcas

262 posts

266 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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I used the same bellhousing from my Pinto when I swapped to the Zetec, bolt pattern is the same. Just made a 1mm ali plate to go between to block a few gaps.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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Should have said, currently runing a crossflow

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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now you got me asking as you have been there, did you have to shorten the sump, are you running carbs or injection?

nashman

88 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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x-Flow Bellhousing to Type 9 is a direct fit for Zetec. In terms of shortening the sump etc. depends on the Ground clearance.

I've gone for a Raceline sump and Jenvey T/B's which gives me overall clearance in a 7esque car.

..............Neil

CorseChris

332 posts

255 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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When I swapped Xflow to Zetec on our Westy, I went for the Dunnel sump. Significantly cheaper than the Raceline or Westfield items, works perfectly fine, although not as pretty, admittedly. It's a cut-n-shut job on a stock sump, but they retain the capacity by panelling in the big void.

Lowest point is the bottom of the bellhousing, by a gnats.

Did use the Raceline water rail and short DCOE inlet manifold though. TBs are DIY conversions of GSXR600 TBs grafted into a pair of dead DHLA 40 bodies, so fit the DCOE manifold nicely and stay within the bonnet line.

Had some bother with starters getting a bit hot due to exhaust heat and letting me down, so ended up with a Brise starter. This has been reliable for a few years now so would recommend it as an option. Nowt more annoying or embarrassing than a car that won't crank over after you stop for petrol......until you've sat there for an hour while it cools down.

Had to fit a remote oil filter too - no way a filter in the normal position would clear the steering column given the layout of our car. A bonus is it's really easy to get at and swap the filter now, no mess, no spillage, even with a fully primed new filter going on. Almost worth the expense just for that.

Good luck with the conversion....you won't be disappointed. Zetec is really a remarkably good engine I reckon.

A stock one responds very well to TBs and a decent exhaust. Can't complain at 169bhp from a £150 stock 2l silver top I don't think.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Cheers for the replies, now convinced a Zetec is the way to go!, another question before I start sourcing bits, I plan to run my twin 40s dcoe, which would be better suited to them, 1.8 or 2.0l, obviously would prefer the 2 litre..........any thoughts?

Martin Keene

10,897 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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If you have already got a set of 40's, they will be best suited to the 1.8.

FWIW, I prefer the 1.8, the Zetec was designed as a 1.8, as a result, the 1.8 seems to have a more revvy nature than the 2.0. Which I think suits Westfields and the like.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Ta for that, should have also said it will be going in a Tiger Super Six

Martin Keene

10,897 posts

247 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Oh, and while I think about it, clutch part numbers are:

QH
Friction Plate C1189AF
Pressure Plate Q10065
Release Bearing CCT133

Ford
Friction Plate 93BG-7550-AA
Pressure Plate 93BG-7563-AA

LUK
Friction Plate 322 0259 10
Pressure Plate 122 0154 10


ETA: Err, lets try that again so you can read it...

Edited by Martin Keene on Monday 20th September 11:40

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Martin, cheers for that, already feels like I am half job done with that info.

s express

160 posts

238 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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I have a clutch kit and 1.8 flywheel (lighter than 2.0) just taken off my old zetec and about to go on ebay if you're interested.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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yep, could be interested, send me details.
Richard

ColinM50

2,685 posts

197 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Just had a 2.0L Zetec from a Focus put in my Royale Sabre to replace a 1.8 CVH and it's transformed the car. Had it set up on a rolling road last weekend and it's putting out 141bhp and goes like stink. Using an Omex ECU.

To answer your original question, the type 9 bolted straight to the Zetec. Used a standard CVH clutch and 87-92 Transit release bearing and a spigot bearing on the gearbox mainshaft. Don't waste money on Tigers £180 shortened sump, though Jim at Tiger will tell you it's the only way the engine will fit. A standard CVH sump fits almost perfectly, just needs gentle judicious use of a hammer to clear one of the main bearings, it'll be obvious when you come to fit it. Dip stick needs a little tweak in to to go down to the deepest part of the sump. Starter motor again was standard CVH but it does get a bit warm so I've fashioned a heat shield for it. Whether it gives up the ghost due to heat, time will tell.

Have a look at wwwe.zetecinside.co.uk some useful stuff there.

Good luck, you won't regret going for the Zetec.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Moving on from my original question............been looking at engines, which is best/easiest fit, black top/silver top etc?
Richard.

Martin Keene

10,897 posts

247 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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What is in the car at the minute?

The black top and silver top are almost interchangable, there are a few subtle differences, but nothing huge. The black top is reputed to have the better cylinder head.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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It has a crossflow in it at the mo.
Richard

s express

160 posts

238 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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silvertop easier to fit, black top makes more power.
if ultimate power is not top of your list - go for the silver top.

Richardsix

Original Poster:

151 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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forgot to mention, my wife belives I am on a budget of 47 new pence!

cps13

264 posts

204 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Sorry to drag this topic up again but I have seen a lot of people say use an escort 1.8 fly wheel and (i think) some people stick with the zetec fly.

Can someone confirm that I am able to stick with they flywheel I have got on the zetec? It's a 1.8 silver top.

cheers