Rear Light Suggestions

[Stubby Pete]

Hi guys, looking for some ideas/suggestions and inspiration on how to change the rear lights on my car over the winter.

I've got an early Phoenix with Landrover lights surface mounted on the rear. I've got some fibreglass work to do this winter to the front and a few repairs to "spiders" which means that a respray will be required anyway. Front lights are being changed to modernise the look so want to do something to the rear too.

ideas so far are clusters mounted behind cut outs in the fireglass leaving it all flush with an oval light or two 55mm circular lights fitted into a depression with reflector between.

I don't need fog lights or reverse lamp so indicator, stop/tail and reflector each side. Suggestions, sketches, drawings and photos welcomed.

[Steve_D]

I would stay with round lights as they suit the car.
There are lots of LED light units around now with mix and match inner and outer light rings. Some of those can also be reflectors. As you already mentioned setting them into the bodywork would be best.
[old fart mode]This used to be called 'Frenching' is the term still used?[/old fart mode].

Ultima use them.
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Gallery.aspx?f=gtrga...

Stafford supply a good range of choices.

Steve

[Stubby Pete]

Cheers for the suggestion, Frenched was indeed the term I was struggling to find!

It's very difficult looking through on-line catalogues of SVC, CBS and Europa without seeing the lights fitted on anything. The picture of the Ultima is exactly the sort of thing I hoped this thread would throw up.

[tribbles]

I partially frenched my lights (they stick out about 5mm) on my Aeon. The Ultima has a nice flat back end for the lights, which I don't have (so the very side ones stick out a bit further at the edges). I didn't put any side tunnels in, but there's not much gap so you don't really notice.

While building:

http://aeon.tribbeck.com/11/DSCF0934.JPG
http://aeon.tribbeck.com/11/DSCF0933.JPG
http://aeon.tribbeck.com/12/DSCF0936.JPG

Finished product:

http://aeon.tribbeck.com/a1/DSCF2890.JPG
http://www.tribbeck.com/cars/exeter2007/DSCF2995.J...
http://aeon.tribbeck.com/a5/DSCF3110.JPG

(done as links, rather than the large images)

[iiyama]

[ajprice]

Rough photoshop ahoy!

Here's a random phoenix from google images with these 55mm lights stuck on the picture.





They are LED and you can get stop/tail and indicators with clear lenses.

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/led-55mm-stoptail-clear...

What have you fitted as headlights to modernise those?

[seansverige]

Would be useful if you posted some photos for reference.

Is it DA, as above, or the Kamm tail? If new headlights already selected, what are they?

[Stubby Pete]

My Phoenix is an older model than that pictured above with a flatter rear end. I'll try and upload a picture shortly.

The clear led 55mm lights are almost what I want but I only want two on each side, the car's too narrow for three along the top, especially with the numberplate planning to move to a higher position. What I need is two circular lights of less than 80mm diameter, incorporating stop, tail, indicator and reflector. Needless to say, both have to be the same size but the configuration doesn't matter too much, nor does the visible unlit colour. The relector has to be red anyway so no specific need to have the others clear.

[Stubby Pete]

As promised, pictures of the rear of my car.






And the front, hence the update!!



The updated front will be posted in a few months when the glasswork and paint is done.

[Steve_D]

Is the 80mm a fixed figure? Could you go to 98mm?
Check the ULTRABRIGHT LED MIX & MATCH LIGHTS
At http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/lights_rear.html

Mix and match as follows to have two lamp units each side.
Outer/upper unit both sides
• Stop/Tail outer ring
• Indicator inner
Inner/lower unit offside
• Reflector outer ring
• Fog light inner
Inner/lower unit nearside
• Reflector outer ring
• Reverse light inner
Think that would look good.

Steve

[Stubby Pete]

80mm not a fixed figure, just worked out that much bigger would be a squeeze to mount horizontally either side of the numberplate.

I like the mix and match idea though, don't need a fog or reverse lamp (due to the age of the car and bike engine).

Could do four inners of stop and tail with outside outers as indicators and the inner ones as reflectors, should look good. Expensive though, £160+ when I was hoping to find some clusters off a common donor car. Think it's worth it though, thanks for the suggestion and link though, I missed them when I looked the other day!

[stevetvrs]

I fitted 95mm units to my white Fury here (also on the blue Stylus).

Ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-REAR-95mm-Lights-Kit-Car-W...

Steve

[El Capitano]

I had similar on my Fury. Personally i'm not so keen on the more modern clear units... i think they look a bit 'tacky' really. But each to their own.






I liked these because it fitted nicely with the classic look of the car. I also think these round rears suit the lines of the car the best. Have you got any pics of yours you can post?


I like the look of the phoenix rear with the recessed lights.... Are you planning to restyle the back end of yours?

[stevetvrs]

El Capitano said:

Personally i'm not so keen on the more modern clear units... i think they look a bit 'tacky' really. But each to their own.

Agreed!

[ajprice]

How about a single light with stop/tail and indicators in one and then a separate reflector? There's the 'hamburger' lights with the indicator stripe, 'bullseye' with the round centre indicator, and a few LED types.




http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/rear-light-clusters-293...

A bit like a GTM Libra

Edited by ajprice on Monday 1st November 09:50

[robcollingridge]

This is what I did on the Fury R1. Both outer rings are rear side lights :-)



More pics here:
http://www.robcollingridge.com/kitcar/gallery/inde...

[robcollingridge]

Side lights on:

[Stubby Pete]

Thanks for the pics folks, keep 'em coming!

I've taken a couple more of mock ups with white paper in place of clear lenses which I'll post up tomorrow.

Rob - YHM.

[Fury1630]

I wanted a sort of "'60s barn-find racer" look, not sure i achieved it. but I'm happy with the result, bullseye lights are tunneled (Frenching leaves the light "face" flush with the body, tunneling leaves it lower) the rear fogs are Pug 306 turned through 90deg.

Might inspire you. because I was dead set on minimum clutter the reflectors are on the backs of the headrests. Can't persuade this to upload a pic at the moment, I'll try to e-mail you one.

[Dr Derek Doctors]

I clicked on the topic thinking it was called 'Rear Right Suspension'