Donor Related Car Registration

[B33FY]

I'm looking for a bit of guidance on registering my car once complete so as I can ascertain my options. Currently I have purchased everything brand new except the engine and gearbox. To avoid a Q plate I was thinking of registering the car against the donor registration. Looking at the various mags and guides I have it states that to do this you need to use a "predetermined" amount of the donor car to do this. Any one know what a predetermined amount is?

[singlecoil]

There is a formula somewhere, on one of the official websites, don't know where, sorry, that gives guidance. You will need the V5 from the donor and the engine number will need to match what it says on the V5.

However, if you had some paperwork to show that the gearbox was new, and all the other parts are new, then all you need is some paperwork showing the the engine has been fully rebuilt and, as an amateur builder, you would qualify for a new registration.

[Steve_D]

B33FY said:

I'm looking for a bit of guidance on registering my car once complete so as I can ascertain my options. Currently I have purchased everything brand new except the engine and gearbox. To avoid a Q plate I was thinking of registering the car against the donor registration. Looking at the various mags and guides I have it states that to do this you need to use a "predetermined" amount of the donor car to do this. Any one know what a predetermined amount is?

The only way you can keep the donor reg is if you are using the unmodified donor chassis. You can be allocated a reg which is the same year as the donor if you use a certain number of parts from the donor. As SC said there is a list on the DVLA web site.
If most of your parts are new then replace the gearbox with a new one and find the receipts for a full re-build of the engine and have yourself a current year reg.

Steve

[B33FY]

Thanks Singlecoil and Steve for your responses, very helpful, it is really a back up plan for a donor age related plate as I ideally would prefer a new plate I want to avoid a q plate as I have a personalised plate for the car It's the "new" components bit that I'm worried about getting stuck on. I can get a brand new engine at considerable cost which I would rather avoid (bare block only for approx £2000) but cannot locate any brand new gearboxes though the gearbox has to be converted anyhow to a mid engined configaration. I really want to avoid any problems with the registration process if I can. One last query would a copy of the donor V5 suffice for registration purposes?

[singlecoil]

B33FY said:

Thanks Singlecoil and Steve for your responses, very helpful, it is really a back up plan for a donor age related plate as I ideally would prefer a new plate I want to avoid a q plate as I have a personalised plate for the car It's the "new" components bit that I'm worried about getting stuck on. I can get a brand new engine at considerable cost which I would rather avoid (bare block only for approx £2000) but cannot locate any brand new gearboxes though the gearbox has to be converted anyhow to a mid engined configaration. I really want to avoid any problems with the registration process if I can. One last query would a copy of the donor V5 suffice for registration purposes?

When you say a copy of the V5, is there any reason why you can't simply apply for the actual V5, and not therefore have to offer a copy?


Concerning the new or rebuilt components, it's important to bear in mind that the process is essentially a paperwork one. The people who have to make the decision will not, as far as I know, carry out a physical examintion to determine the actual newness of the parts in question.

[B33FY]

Thanks singlecoil for the response, I bought a complete car with the intention of using the engine and gearbox and then would sell the donor vehicle with the V5 keeping a copy for registration purposes.

[singlecoil]

B33FY said:

Thanks singlecoil for the response, I bought a complete car with the intention of using the engine and gearbox and then would sell the donor vehicle with the V5 keeping a copy for registration purposes.

I doubt if that's going to go down too well with the authorities if the idea is to obtain an age-related registration, but it's not cropped up before, in my experience anyway, so I may well be wrong. If aiming for age related then I suggest making some phone calls or emails to the relevant people, but maybe without saying who you are at this stage (in case they say no).

[dave de roxby]

Is this what you need?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...

[B33FY]

Thanks Dave, It looks like either a new engine for a "new plate" or an age related plate based on the donor engine and gearbox origin and age I'll keep the V5 as proof just in case. Thanks all for the advice.

[brian7136]

You can still get a "current registration mark" if no more than one of the major components is reconditioned to as new standard. See http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...

[brian7136]

Better still see DVLA leaflet INF 26 here http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/forms/onlineleaflets.as...

[B33FY]

Thanks Brian, that leaves me a choice of either a brand new gearbox circa £6000 or a brand new engine ( bare block circa £2000) then recon the other. I'm not anti q plates, its just that I have a personalised one that I would like to put on the car eventually.