what car is that? Gemini or Falcon Mk2
what car is that? Gemini or Falcon Mk2
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Comadis

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249 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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could somebody be so kind and identify the below car?




dmulally

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206 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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Looks close to a gemini


Russ Bost

456 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Does look very similar to the Gemini, but the back end looks slightly different (tho' could just be the picture). I believe the Gemini was developed from the Elva? Would guess it's one of the above.

Comadis

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Tuesday 19th April 2011
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i have all these pictrues form the gemini´s already.

so my hope was that somebody could find out anything by the number-plate, as my search at the dvla database did not turn out with a result.

Frankthered

1,681 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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My guess would be that it's a Gemini. The number plate definitely suggests Mk 2 Escort donor. Perhaps you could contact Autotune to see if they know the car?

Comadis

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Thursday 21st April 2011
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dvla database does not come up with "Ford" for this number-plate. may i ask how you know that the reg. belongs to a ford?


Frankthered

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Thursday 21st April 2011
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I don't "know" that the reg. belongs to a Ford. I did check the DVLA site myself and also found nothing.

I did say that it "suggests" a mk 2 Escort purely as the P suffix would have been first registered between August 1975 and July 1976, just after the mk 2 was launched.

From the little research I did on the Falcon, I believe that it would be a much earlier car - 1960's?

Although IIRC, it was possible in those days to re-register your car with the suffix that was current at that time.

As I said, it was just a guess ...

Comadis

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Friday 22nd April 2011
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oh...ok. my fault.

is there another possibility , besides autotune (i contacted them today by email about that matter), to get any infos about that car? Falcon register?

the squarish cut-outs for the sidelampos and inidcator rather indicates its a gemini, but on a gemini this area sticks out from the body, whereas on the picture its flush.

the headlamp area is moulded for headlamp covers, which i havent seen before on an original-gemini.



Edited by Comadis on Friday 22 April 08:29

HardWorkers

537 posts

236 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Martin A

344 posts

269 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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It's a Gemini. The humped rear wheel arches give it away.

Comadis

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Sunday 1st May 2011
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Autotune replied!!!!

"The photo that you sent is of an original Falcon body that was used on the Gemini prototype built in the 1980's. It has since been replaced with a production Gemini shell and the car is still owned and occasionally raced by us."

Edited by Comadis on Sunday 1st May 16:37

trackerjack

649 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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I have actually been driven in that car back in the early nineties before deciding to build my own Gemini using a Dolly Sprint lump which I enjoyed for a while but sadly dinged it down in Totnes Devon.
The Taylors who are Autotune are lovely people and their son does research into little known cars, so you could not have gone to a better place to find your answer.

Tim.C

342 posts

223 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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How did I miss this thread? I'm building a Gemini to go racing in 750MC RGB - albeit at a glacial pace:
http://timsmnr.blogspot.com

It's a shame that the Gemini didn't retain the lip for the headlamp covers - oh well.

Comadis

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Monday 9th May 2011
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hi tim,

we already had contact..i sent you some pictures of the built from my gemini...

i think there are not many gemini´s around, so its quite rare to find somebody involved in those kits..

designwise its a good alternative to a fisher or sylva fury i think!!


Tim.C

342 posts

223 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Hi A.G.,

Yes - I realised once I'd replied. You are right about their rarity - and I find it slightly strange myself. For example, the difference between the Gemini body and the GRP I've seen on Furies is night-and-day (I understand that the new owner of the Fury project is sorting this out.) I personally prefer the traditional 5-link rear to the Sylva live-axle solution too.

I met Richard and Carolyn Taylor at the Stoneleigh Show last weekend. They seem like great people to deal with. Richard put up with plenty of my unusual questions. He doesn't know it yet but I may have a chat with him to see if he fancies doing some sort of arrive-and-drive package on the car mentioned in his e-mail for a race later in the season.

I'm going to be starting spending on my machine again soon however so looking forward to making progress, or at least accumulating some 'stuff' for the build.

TC


Edited by Tim.C on Monday 9th May 15:23


Edited by Tim.C on Monday 9th May 16:52

Comadis

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Monday 9th May 2011
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i still cant say which is my favourite at the moment...my gemini or my sylva...the gemini drives not so "spectacular" as my sylva..i mean the gemeini behaves more like a "road-car" than a kitcar.

i´m quite happy with the sylva solution of the live-axle and i would not say that the traditional one is better..i prefer the sylva one...ok...my gemini is about 150kg heavier as my sylva as it has more trim, a windsceeen, the sylva has a lightweight race-body so the fibreglass is ultra-thin, speedster screen, bare aluminium inside, shorter diff, engine slightly more powerfull.... therefore i guess the driving exprience is totally differnt