How to stop sump oilleaks ?
How to stop sump oilleaks ?
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cantus

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925 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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I solved it with "made in Britain" parts.



heightswitch

6,322 posts

267 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Excellent and totally corrosion resistant hehe
N

I was going to suggest running without oil biggrin

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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ONLY...corrosion resistant, 2 pence pieces are only copper plated pieces of steel.
Adrian@

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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OK geniuses - a challenge.

How to stop the Cologne rocker covers from leaking, BUT so you can still remove them for adjusting the tappets ?

(Yep, from another thread...20-50 oil definitely helps ! )

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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Buy the correct gaskets, (obviously there are 2.8 and 2.9 gaskets that look the same, but are not) there is a version that comes that has a sticky adhesive on one side that adhere to the rockers 1st, using the correct spreader plates.
Adrian@

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

299 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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Adrian@ said:
ONLY...corrosion resistant, 2 pence pieces are only copper plated pieces of steel.
Adrian@
Not stricktly true! 2p coins from 1971(decimilisation) to 1992 were made from bronze which is 97% copper and are actually worth considerably more as scrap than 2p. Personally I would have waited a couple of months and used Euros, considerably less valuable

phillpot

17,392 posts

200 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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RCK974X said:
OK geniuses - a challenge.

How to stop the Cologne rocker covers from leaking
Genuine Ford gaskets (can still be found) have some little metal spacers built into them to stop them squashing too much. Far superior to some of the gaskets available that are a terrible fit (or maybe I was sold 2.8 gaskets as 2.9's?)

Being rather old stock now the sticky might not be too good but they can be glued to rocker covers with Evo-Stik.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

267 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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RCK974X said:
OK geniuses - a challenge.

How to stop the Cologne rocker covers from leaking, BUT so you can still remove them for adjusting the tappets ?

(Yep, from another thread...20-50 oil definitely helps ! )
Change the engine to a properly designed essex with its much more superior tappet adjustment system that doesnt need fiddling with every couple of thousand miles unlike the old colonic interferance thread arrangement that slackens off with monotonous regularity
tongue out


hehe

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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"Genuine Ford gaskets have a metal piece"

Really ? - Wow, I've never seen any like that, and yes the 'standard' types don't seem to fit very well. I thought the sticky ones were only for the 2.9s and they aren't interchangeable ?? or is that wrong ?
Interesting info anyway - thanks for that. I did see somewhere the suggestion that it's too easy to crush the cork gaskets....

I have tried gluing the bottom of the gaskets to the cyl head (with gasket sealer) to create a sort of dam for the oil, which does slow the seepage down a bit....

"Change the engine to a properly designed essex with its much more superior tappet adjustment system that doesnt need fiddling with every couple of thousand miles unlike the old colonic interferance thread arrangement that slackens off with monotonous regularity
- tongue out "

In the same spirit - why the hell would I fit something that's even MORE ancient, has less power, more weight, and is even harder to get parts for ? And what, individual posts are better than a rocker shaft ? Hmmmm..... (Oh and there's nowhere for the third exhaust pipe to go....)

Although I have to admit, the standard screw and locknut does seem to be better than the 'stiff' thread garbage....






GAjon

3,932 posts

230 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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Just use clear silicone when fitting, won't cause it to stick like glue, will seal it.

phillpot

17,392 posts

200 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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RCK974X said:
"Genuine Ford gaskets have a metal piece"

I thought the sticky ones were only for the 2.9s and they aren't interchangeable ?
Sorry if there's any confusion I was referring to 2.9 gaskets, don't know if 2.8's are also sticky?

The metal pieces are almost un-noticeable. like short slices of 1mm alluminium rod (maybe?) set in the cork, one either side of each screw hole so that the load spreaders pull down onto them.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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The only sticky gaskets I've seen were 2.9 ones, and as far as I know, they are just different enough that they don't fit the 2.8 (shame...), but happy for someone to tell me I'm wrong...

Those ally inserts on the 2.9 gaskets sound EXACTLY like what's needed on the 2.8's, and makes me wonder if that was the official 'fix' for the gaskets....

Silicone - (what like 'instant gasket' ?) a good idea, I guess you need a thin layer of oil to stop it sticking to the pan (or head ?) so you can get it off afterwards...hmmmm.. sounds like it's worth a try ...

phillpot

17,392 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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RCK974X said:
Those ally inserts on the 2.9 gaskets sound EXACTLY like what's needed on the 2.8's, and makes me wonder if that was the official 'fix' for the gaskets....
One picture = thousand words...........





Getting back to the original post, how do you get holes there in the first place scratchchin

something rubbing (bellhousing bolts) or just thin metal from the way the sumps are stamped out?

Edited by phillpot on Thursday 16th February 21:31

RCK974X

2,521 posts

166 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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That picture IS worth the thousand words... A simple trick that I could try out on a set of new 2.8 gaskets.....Does the 2.9 still have those little 'spreader' type plates on the rocker cover bolts ?

phillpot

17,392 posts

200 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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RCK974X said:
Does the 2.9 still have those little 'spreader' type plates on the rocker cover bolts ?
Yes.

If / when I change the gaskets I'll save all the little bits! wink

Slow M

2,836 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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Hylomar on both sides of a gasket has worked well for me.

Best,
B.